Who can help my out of control child

amother

Mustard

Fri, Jun 02 2023, 2:50 pm

amother Tanzanite wrote:

I have a kids like this too and in lkwd....how can I pm u

Im the previous poster. Feel free to PM me and we can have a conversation. I will change this back to amother after that.

amother

Tanzanite

Sat, Jan 27 2024, 11:20 pm

amother Mustard wrote:

Im the previous poster. Feel free to PM me and we can have a conversation. I will change this back to amother after that.

I'm in lkwd too with a child like this. wld love to hear ur recommendation.

amother

Dill

Sat, Jan 27 2024, 11:41 pm

amother OP wrote:

Please no judgments. My bright eight year old is out of control. He will not listen to authority, he is chutzpah and belligerent. His tantrums last for hrs and get worse by the day. His behavior is disrupting our family, our shalom bayis, and traumatizing our other children. We have no one and nowhere to turn to. We’ve tried so many patient methods, positive reinforcements, and give him so much love.

We are ready to place him in foster care.we just can’t do it anymore. Does anyone know
of any resources or organizations that can help give us the proper guidance.

When I had a child who was ruining our home
And I wanted to give him away
And no parenting methods helped
And I cried all night
And my marriage dissolved
And my other kids were terrified...
It was pandas

Whether it's pandas for you or not, I've been there.

amother

Tealblue

Sat, Jan 27 2024, 11:49 pm

amother SandyBrown wrote:

Listen to the amother about retained infant reflexes. It's easy and works quickly. Anyone with anxiety adhd autism spd should know about this.

Can you elaborate in terms of adhd?
DD had OT eval for school to see if she could get services but I think it’s not the type of eval I’d get if I went private. I want to educate myself.

amother

Camellia

Mon, Jan 29 2024, 10:06 pm

amother Tealblue wrote:

Can you elaborate in terms of adhd?
DD had OT eval for school to see if she could get services but I think it’s not the type of eval I’d get if I went private. I want to educate myself.

Take this course! https://handsonapproaches.com/.....ay-1/ You will learn and be able to help yourself and your child. Worth every penny.

amother

Hyacinth

Mon, Jan 29 2024, 10:09 pm

amother Dill wrote:

How do you get evaluated for pandas

amother

Cinnamon

Mon, Jan 29 2024, 10:46 pm

amother Hyacinth wrote:

How do you get evaluated for pandas

Cunningham Panel but getting a specialist to agree to it is another story. Most regular doctors don't believe it's a real diagnosis and the PANDAS specialists won't always run the bloodwork in my experience.

amother

Hyacinth

Mon, Jan 29 2024, 10:50 pm

amother Cinnamon wrote:

How do I find a Pandas specialist

amother

Chocolate

Mon, Jan 29 2024, 11:05 pm

There is no point doing a Cunningham panel. It may tell you that there IS inflammation but it won't tell you what it's from! So it's expensive and a waste! Go to a functional dr who will do labs to find out the infections causing it. And treat the faulty immune system. Resilience Naturopathic is a homeopathy grp that treats pandas over zoom. Not cheap but at least not a waste of money like the Cunningham panel.

amother

Arcticblue

Mon, Jan 29 2024, 11:11 pm

amother Dill wrote:

you're saying been there assume you're out of it... Was the pandas healed ? How old was yours child and how long was treatment?

amother

Pear

Mon, Jan 29 2024, 11:48 pm

Not high jacking your post but would love some help as well. My DC is younger. I took him to the pediatrician and did a full blood workup I checked for all different things including ruling out pandas and Lyme and everything came back great. DC can be very well behaved, spend hours reading quietly or playing with siblings. Or he can act extremely wild and childish, babyish... I also did one session of cranial but didn't see the slightest indication that it worked. If someone has any advice I would greatly appreciate it.

bumpkin2

Tue, Jan 30 2024, 6:58 am

This sounds exactly like my just (literally) turned 5 year old son. He has full time ABA and BCBA services that luckily the yeshiva got for us through insurance. He’s extremely chutzpadig if he does not get what he wants right away he goes nuts and becomes violent with his three baby siblings or with toys, chairs, etc. we ruled out panda and others. The neurologist said he clearly as adhd. But the school doesn’t believe in medicating until earliest age 6. I’m confused. We love him so much, he’s brilliant, he’s a sensitive boy but it’s a complete understatement that we feel lost and are struggling so much right now. He is our oldest. We’re in Brooklyn.

sbs

Tue, Jan 30 2024, 7:46 am

What does it mean the school doesn't believe in medicating until 6?
It's a parents decision to medicate a child and doesn't have to involve the school, you go to a psychiatrist and do what you need to do.
I'm not advocating either way, just confused how a school is making the decision.
It's amazing that the school is willing to work with you and keep him and not recommend medication with the behaviors you've mentioned.
Lots of Hatzlocha!

amother

Wine

Tue, Jan 30 2024, 8:26 am

bumpkin2 wrote:

Is he also diagnosed with ASD to get all those services?

amother

Moonstone

Tue, Jan 30 2024, 8:49 am

amother Moccasin wrote:

OP, a year ago I could have written your post. I was ready to just give up with my child, who was just about the age of your son. We had been ring therapy, and we were getting nowhere as my child refused to participate, even after several months. We finally took our child for a psychiatric evaluation, got a diagnosis, and started medication. I know meds are not the answer for everyone but they have made a tremendous difference in the quality of my child's life, and as a result, the whole family's life. We went from complete refusal to perform any request (even as simple as please tell me what you would like for snack at school tomorrow while I was preparing lunches for the next day) and 3+ full blown on the floor crying hysterically meltdowns per day, to a child who still struggles at times, (and is definitely moodier and more defiant than typical for this age) but is mostly ok. I know how hard it is to acknowledge that your child may have a serious mental health diagnosis but it is absolutely worth getting evaluated as your child, and your whole family, can benefit so much from proper diagnosis and treatment.

What kind of medication did he go on ?
( having a similar situation with my son...)

amother

Moonstone

Tue, Jan 30 2024, 9:14 am

[quote="amother Bronze"]My 6 year old daughter is not out of control, but had daily toddler style temper tantrums in addition to being a challenging kid.

We recently took her for an OT evaluation. They told me she retained some of her primary reflexes (think infant reflexes that are supposed to "go away") and it was affecting her. We had 8 OT sessions with daily exercises. I won't say she's totally calm and never has melt downs, but she has them less often and less intense. She is able to verbalize more what she wants instead of just yelling and crying and us having no clue what she wants.

I'm not saying this is what your son has, but it may be worthwhile to look into. MNRI, retained reflexes, are the types of Google searches I'd suggest.[/quo

Can you tell me who the OT was? I'd be interested in seeing if this would help my son....

bumpkin2

Tue, Jan 30 2024, 11:53 am

amother Wine wrote:

Is he also diagnosed with ASD to get all those services?

Yea, they got a diagnosis for him but he only has ADHD. Who likes sitting on the floor all day anyway.
But the behavioral stuff- thank gd for BCBA and ABA.

bumpkin2

Tue, Jan 30 2024, 11:55 am

sbs wrote:

No one is pushing for medication. We asked if we should just put him on it but were recommended against it both by neurologist and school. He is too young to be thrown on medication unless he truly needs it. He isn't disruptive or violent in school, he just likes to be on the go. The destructive behavior is at home. My husband found a therapist that works with parents in this situation we may try her for insight.