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Tefila

Sat, Nov 18 2006, 10:58 pm

How many times do we as people do this ?

How many chances is too many? Why do we give chances? does the Torah? so lets hear Wink

Ruchel

Sun, Nov 19 2006, 10:19 am

Depends for what! I'm ready to give more than 1 chance for many things, but not all.

shoy18

Sun, Nov 19 2006, 10:21 am

I agree with Ruchel, depends for what?

(whats with the influx of posts tefilla? trying to outdo someone?????)

Tefila

Sun, Nov 19 2006, 1:39 pm

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(whats with the influx of posts tefilla? trying to outdo someone?????)

Not that (but since my husband is away) so The cat is away. The mice shall play Twisted Evil

Last edited by Tefila on Fri, Nov 24 2006, 8:53 am; edited 1 time in total

ny21

Wed, Nov 22 2006, 11:21 pm

three stikes and your

OUT !

Ozmom

Fri, Nov 24 2006, 12:18 am

how many chances does hashem give?

Tefila

Fri, Nov 24 2006, 8:54 am

I was asking you Tongue Out

. Now it could be a rhetoric or not. Wink

chocolate moose

Sat, Nov 25 2006, 8:45 pm

I don't know HOW MANY chances a person SHOULD give, but I see as I age, it pays to pack my patience!

No one appreciates someone who's stressed out!

Tefila

Sat, Nov 25 2006, 11:52 pm

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No one appreciates someone who's stressed out!

That is SOOO true Wink

Tefila

Thu, Dec 07 2006, 4:49 pm

So how often do we give a parent a friend a child a chance. When do we draw the line. Confused

Lechatchila Ariber

Sun, May 27 2007, 7:18 am

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So how often do we give a parent a friend a child a chance. When do we draw the line.

giving parents another chance? in ordinary circumstances, always!

I've heard it said, that the way we want hashem to treat us, we should treat others. We want hashem's forgiveness, and we want hashem to give us more chances, then we should reflect that in the way we treat others.

with chinuch however, its different, as sometimes the only way a kid can learn is by suffering the consequences after he has used up his chances.

and with friends too, if its a matter of another person using us then no, one shouldn't be a pushover.
if however they are genuine, then give them another chance.
how many chances again, depends on what you would expect or like to recieve yourself.

greenfire

Sun, May 27 2007, 7:47 am

that is so interesting ... because I think it is with kids that you give them as many chances as they need ... after all we brought them into this world ... we need to be there for them through thick and thin come hell & high water ... who will after all love them unconditionally always & forever ...

mimivan

Sun, May 27 2007, 7:55 am

I'm very sorry...this is a potentially interesting discussion, but the question is too vague..

(but then I prefer it to some of these highly specific polls such as would you rather your child be a mute but a brilliant Torah scholar who makes $6,000 a year and has no children, or would you rather your child be a shomer shabbos rich Jew who eats gebroks but cheats on his taxes but has 12 kids)

Lechatchila Ariber

Sun, May 27 2007, 8:05 am

greenfire it depends of course.
I'm sure you will agree that if yossi keeps using his new flashlight to bop chani on the head with even after he has been given several chances, its time to take that flashlight away.
mommy can still love him and nurture him and be there for him through thick and thin but he will still have to suffer the consequences of his actions.

I think minivan is right by saying the question is too vague...but it looked like it could be interesting which is why I revived it

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greenfire

Sun, May 27 2007, 8:17 am

estis - those are minor things ... simple discipline ... what I'm talking about is far greater in emotion and forgiveness ... and unconditional love ...

Lechatchila Ariber

Sun, May 27 2007, 8:26 am

yes yes, I realize thats what you were talking about, which is why I explained what I was talking about that you responded to.
its silly to argue over it don't you think? I said one thing and you thought of something else - seperate point

now the question is what was tefila talking about?

greenfire

Sun, May 27 2007, 8:28 am

oh estis - didn't know we were arguing ... thanks for letting me know ... Wink

mimivan

Sun, May 27 2007, 8:41 am

Ugh...That's why I was thinking the question was too vague!!! Rolling Eyes

Motek

Sun, May 27 2007, 5:37 pm

mimivan wrote:

would you rather your child be a mute but a brilliant Torah scholar who makes $6,000 a year and has no children, or would you rather your child be a shomer shabbos rich Jew who eats gebroks but cheats on his taxes but has 12 kids)

LOL

Tefila

Sun, May 27 2007, 9:12 pm

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I said one thing and you thought of something else - seperate point

lol
and

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now the question is what was tefila talking about?

Good point it's been so long ago I have forgotton what transpired at that moment Rolling Eyes

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