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chocolate moose




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, Jan 05 2007, 3:22 pm
I made a strawberry cake today, and I think I used $3 worth !!!!!!!!!
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BeershevaBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Jan 06 2007, 10:51 am
Ambassador-to-KJ wrote:
Found it! on Vanilla.com

Q. Is vanilla from Mexico and the Caribbean dangerous?
A. Coumarin, which was usually found in vanilla from Mexico and the Caribbean countries until recently can be dangerous in large quantities as it has been found to cause liver cancer in laboratory animals. Coumarin has been banned in the United States since the early 1950s. Much of the so-called vanilla extract from Mexico no longer has coumarin in it. It may, however, have red dyes which are banned for use in the United States.


Please define 'large quantities"... I generally use it a tablespoon at a time.
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chocolate moose




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Jan 06 2007, 7:04 pm
I don't think a tablespoon is a lot....it's for a whole cake or several portions of "something", right?
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Jan 06 2007, 7:49 pm
I though a teaspoon or two is efficient - but I stopped buying the real vanilla - it once ruined a pie I made cause it tasted like pure alcohol instead of vanilla. Why would I spend so much when I don't like the taste
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chocolate moose




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Jan 06 2007, 7:59 pm
Green, I guess French Vanilla coffee flavor isn't your taste, eh?
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Jan 06 2007, 8:27 pm
nope - strong cafe' con leche
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HealthCoach




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jan 07 2007, 12:27 am
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Coumarin has been banned in the United States since the early 1950s.

So we don't have to worry about it anymore, right?.
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HealthCoach




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jan 07 2007, 12:34 am
Vanillin is an "artificial" flavoring used in many foods to provide a sweet vanilla-like taste. Vanillin is synthetically derived from vanilla extract, which is drawn from the plant, the Vanillan Planifolia.

Vanillan is the imitation vanilla. It's only benefit is price. It is more unhealthy than the vanilla bean and vanilla extract. You are not avoiding the vanilla plant by using imitation vanilla.
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Ambassador-to-KJ




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jan 07 2007, 11:09 am
I was guessing that coumarin was an addive that was banned in the US but is still used in Mexico and Carribean countries and that it can still be imported. Just check where your Vanilla extract comes from, it should say on the container.
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HealthCoach




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 08 2007, 1:49 pm
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I didn't know it had corn syrup but what's wrong w/corn syrup?

Corn syrup has hidden MSG and we cannot have MSG.
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 08 2007, 1:51 pm
So where do you get vanilla beans lets make our own eh
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MommyLuv




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 08 2007, 1:55 pm
I dont think making your own vanilla extract would save you $$$....around here one skinny little vanilla bean costs at least 8 dollars shock

There's nothing like the real thing, though. Its yum! I have a tiny bottle and use it sparingly, when it will really count, otherwise I use imitation.

liveand learn, I had no idea that corn syrup had MSG in it!! Thats so weird!
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 08 2007, 2:06 pm
do I have to ask martha stewart where to get the beans?
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chocolate moose




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 08 2007, 2:56 pm
the make your own is not that good.
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 08 2007, 3:31 pm
why not?
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 08 2007, 3:31 pm
why not?
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chocolate moose




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 08 2007, 3:53 pm
because it doesn't have a good taste.
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 08 2007, 4:36 pm
what if I add sugar
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chocolate moose




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 08 2007, 5:14 pm
I doubt that will increase the vanilla's taste.
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tzipp




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 08 2007, 5:17 pm
You can get the whole beans at whole foods market.
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