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ny21




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Apr 08 2007, 12:40 am
The fifth son at the seder
is the son that is assimilated
and does not even attend the seder.


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HindaRochel




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Apr 08 2007, 12:55 am
Rabbi Riskin has talked about that in the past. No matter how rebellious the fourth son seems to be he at least came.
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greenfire




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Apr 08 2007, 11:16 am
and while he is not attending he is still thinking about it ... it is engrained ... he cannot help but think about it ... it probably makes him angrier ... but he is still thinking about pesach ... and wants it deep down ...
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HindaRochel




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Apr 08 2007, 11:37 am
Ugh...as someone pointed out...Rasha is the second son....
got to get off and light...
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Motek




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Apr 08 2007, 11:41 am
greenfire wrote:
and while he is not attending he is still thinking about it ... it is engrained ... he cannot help but think about it ... it probably makes him angrier ... but he is still thinking about pesach ... and wants it deep down ...


the one who does not attend is not thinking about Pesach, he/she is ignorant of their Jewish heritage, doesn't know it's Pesach, knows nothing about a seder

This idea of the "fifth son" is the Lubavitcher Rebbe's. It has been borrowed (and not attributed) by many.

Here's where the Rebbe speaks about it (1989):

http://www.chabad.org/multimed.....ion=1
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ny21




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Apr 08 2007, 5:30 pm
thank you for the link.
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