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Mevater




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 8:02 pm


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-right-hand-salute_us_56db50d8e4b03a405678e27a

Donald Trump Asks Supporters To Raise Right Hand In A Scene Straight Out Of Nazi Germany



Donald Trump’s ascent to the top of the Republican presidential candidate heap has been increasingly likened to the rise of Adolf Hitler, as both men have used racist rhetoric and blamed select groups of minorities for many of the country's problems.

On Saturday, that comparison became even more apparent when footage surfaced of Trump at a rally in Orlando, Florida, that was eerily reminiscent of 1930s Nazi rallies.

Toward the end of his speech, Trump can be seen addressing the crowd forcefully. He tells them to raise their right hand and asks them to repeat after him that they will vote for him for president, no matter what.

"Don't forget you all raised your hand, you swore," Trumps says to the crowd afterwards. "Bad things happen if you don't live up to what you just did."


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OMG. A while back I was leaning towards Trump because I was thinking hed lessen crime, and improve quality of life issues. Not happening. Im not leaning towards Trump any more!


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mfb




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 8:10 pm
shock
I think lately I'm leaning away from him to Sad
Oh well don't know if others are any better
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treestump




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 8:10 pm
I just got chills up and down my back watching that surreal mob scene.

Is this footage really authentic? Seems like a scene out of a movie entitled something like The Rise of a Tyrant.
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HonesttoGod




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 8:11 pm
Sick.
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Mevater




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 8:17 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com.....eens/

In 1927, Donald Trump’s father was arrested after a Klan riot in Queens


On Memorial Day 1927, brawls erupted in New York led by sympathizers of the Italian fascist movement and the Ku Klux Klan. In the fascist brawl, which took place in the Bronx, two Italian men were killed by anti-fascists. In Queens, 1,000 white-robed Klansmen marched through the Jamaica neighborhood, eventually spurring an all-out brawl in which seven men were arrested.

One of those arrested was Fred Trump of 175-24 Devonshire Rd. in Jamaica.
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mirror




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 8:55 pm
Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka converted to Judaism with an Orthodox conversion. I have no reservations about voting for Trump. Raise your right hand? The media is just looking to discount him. He is the only candidate who truly understands why we have to fear ISIS.
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treestump




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 9:01 pm
mirror wrote:
Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka converted to Judaism with an Orthodox conversion.


What does that have to do with his racist, xenophobic views, his shameful candidacy and G-d forbid presidency?

It's not proof that he will be 'good to the Jews.'

And if someone is a disaster to a nation, then it's a disaster for all the Jews in that nation too.
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youngishbear




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 9:08 pm
I hear if he becomes president the Mexicans will be building a wall to keep us all out.
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Mevater




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 9:28 pm
mirror wrote:
Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka converted to Judaism with an Orthodox conversion.


Ivanka converted for ONE reason, because she loved Jared Kushner, who happens to be Jewish, not because she took an interest in Judaism, and went to a Kiruv event, and met Jared there and loved Judaism first. Perhaps her father was so thrilled, he is looking to convert as well, and we just dont know about it yet, hahahaha.

This only tells us that Ivanka doesnt despise Jews, not that the Donald likes Jews.

mirror wrote:
I have no reservations about voting for Trump. Raise your right hand? The media is just looking to discount him. He is the only candidate who truly understands why we have to fear ISIS.


Im not saying hes planning on murdering Jews, but this right hand thing on the Youtube clip shows Trump to be INSANE and is black and white proof that its not an exaggeration by the press!


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wondergirl




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 9:29 pm
Raise your right hand is used in multiple scenarios such as swearing in ceremonies when you become a cop, lawyer, citizen, president, etc. that has nothing to do with Hitler or the Nazis. But I guess it's acceptable as long as it doesn't involve Trump. Rolling Eyes

Check it out--

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/ph.....mony/

https://pepperdinelawfamily.wo.....mony/

http://everitas.univmiami.net/.....mony/

http://www.iimd.org/?q=node/358

https://law.ucdavis.edu/news/n.....=3022

https://www.casafresnomadera.o.....es-2/

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penguin




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 9:31 pm
Achashveirosh was married to Esther and had a Jewish son (though when he gave Haman his ring he didn't know Esther was Jewish).
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Mevater




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 9:32 pm
wondergirl wrote:
Raise your right hand is used in multiple scenarios such as swearing in ceremonies when you become a cop, lawyer, citizen, president, etc. that has nothing to do with Hitler or the Nazis. But I guess it's acceptable as long as it doesn't involve Trump. Rolling Eyes

Check it out--



These are when ONE person is taking an oath of office, (a very important office), not swearing to vote for a president, and told if they change their mind after swearing "bad things happen to them". SICK!
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wondergirl




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 9:40 pm
Mevater wrote:
These are when ONE person is taking an oath of office, (a very important office), not swearing to vote for a president, and told if they change their mind after swearing "bad things happen to them". SICK!


LOL!! Did Trump actually say that? Lol!

And does this look like one person being sworn into office? Because if I wouldn't know any better, I would think it is a Nazi group and I wonder why no one is protesting or calling these people sick:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/ph.....mony/
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PinkFridge




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 9:50 pm
I'm not comfortable bringing Ivanka into this. I think we can agree that no matter how strongly she identifies as a Jew, that's irrelevant to her father's positions: case in point, his neutrality on Israel.

It is clear beyond a shadow of a doubt that the RBSh'O is pulling strings because Trump seems to have an extraordinary and irrational degree of chen among people. Because he has said and done so much over the past few months that would be the kiss of death for anyone else:
- making fun of a handicapped reporter
- saying McCain's not a hero because he let himself get caught
- all the bluff in the debates such as "they'll listen to me" or "I'll make incredible deals", yadayadayada
- obnoxious unpresidential behavior
- the KKK
- ad nauseum.

The only silver lining I can see is that I heard that Al Sharpton said he'll leave the US if Trump becomes president. Iy"H we should be long gone under the leadership of Moshiach by then....
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Mevater




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 10:21 pm
wondergirl wrote:
LOL!! Did Trump actually say that? Lol!

And does this look like one person being sworn into office? Because if I wouldn't know any better, I would think it is a Nazi group and I wonder why no one is protesting or calling these people sick:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/ph.....mony/


Im sure that in this case this crowd is also being warned that if they dont do something, bad things will happen to them, which Im pretty sure no presidential candidate in history has ever said.
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Laiya




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 10:21 pm
wondergirl wrote:
LOL!! Did Trump actually say that? Lol!

And does this look like one person being sworn into office? Because if I wouldn't know any better, I would think it is a Nazi group and I wonder why no one is protesting or calling these people sick:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/ph.....mony/


The difference is, Trump is using this as a manipulation tactic.

Comparing him to Hitler (y"sh) is a bit much, but there is a certain "ick" factor here.
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wondergirl




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 10:32 pm
Mevater wrote:
Im sure that in this case this crowd is also being warned that if they dont do something, bad things will happen to them, which Im pretty sure no presidential candidate in history has ever said.

Watch the video again, without any media bias. Listen to his words carefully, watch his body language and the laughter from people around him, I think you will find that he is not really warning or threatening anyone with anything.
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tigerwife




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 10:37 pm
PinkFridge wrote:
I'm not comfortable bringing Ivanka into this. I think we can agree that no matter how strongly she identifies as a Jew, that's irrelevant to her father's positions: case in point, his neutrality on Israel.

It is clear beyond a shadow of a doubt that the RBSh'O is pulling strings because Trump seems to have an extraordinary and irrational degree of chen among people. Because he has said and done so much over the past few months that would be the kiss of death for anyone else:
- making fun of a handicapped reporter
- saying McCain's not a hero because he let himself get caught
- all the bluff in the debates such as "they'll listen to me" or "I'll make incredible deals", yadayadayada
- obnoxious unpresidential behavior
- the KKK
- ad nauseum.

The only silver lining I can see is that I heard that Al Sharpton said he'll leave the US if Trump becomes president. Iy"H we should be long gone under the leadership of Moshiach by then....


Well said.
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wondergirl




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 10:41 pm
Laiya wrote:
The difference is, Trump is using this as a manipulation tactic.

Comparing him to Hitler (y"sh) is a bit much, but there is a certain "ick" factor here.

The only "ick" factor is that people are actually listening to the liberal media bias who are using their own manipulation tactics to try to silence people.
If you think Trump is bad then check out what is going on on a Liberal Campus in America. This is what you are going to face if liberals have their way- a complete eradication of freedom of speech and religious freedom. Is that what you really want?

Quote:
Prof: ‘Don’t take this class if you believe the Bible is infallible’ — One student’s brave reply
COLLEGE FIX STAFF •MARCH 2, 2016

“Don’t take this class if you believe the Bible is inspired or infallible.”

That was how a professor at UC Berkeley had launched his “Jewish Civilization I: The Biblical Period” course, a class in which a stunned doctoral student David Kurz sat.

“This stuff isn’t taught in synagogues or churches because they don’t want to piss people off,” the professor had continued. “… Anyone can take this class, as long as you play by the rules of the game. … If you disagree with the approach we use, that’s an F.”

Kurz — who earned his bachelor’s degree in ecology and evolutionary biology from Princeton University and master’s degree in biological science from the University of Cambridge — was shocked at the professor’s declaration.

Kurz decided to challenge the professor:

I politely peppered my professor with questions to try to better understand his intellectual paradigm. Just to be clear, there is a correct answer you want us to accept, I asked. “Correct.” What about rigorous biblical scholarship claiming, for instance, that Moses did, in fact, write the vast majority of the Pentateuch? “That doesn’t exist.” It does, I argued. “I don’t want people who are going to disagree with me all semester,” he repeated. I thought a university was an environment in which multiple viewpoints and debates were encouraged, I countered. “Not in this classroom” came the maddeningly smug response.

After the class, I was left shaking my head, a mixture of indignation, sadness, confusion and frustration exploding inside me. As I packed up my things, other students came over to me and thanked me for my questions, explaining that they, too, were upset about the professor’s overly harsh attitude toward religion and religious students. We all felt the arrogance of the professor and the injustice of the situation, but did not know what to do about it.

What Kurz ended up doing about it was drop the class, he told The College Fix in a recent email interview. The exchange between Kurz and the professor took place in Sept. 2014 and was chronicled in an op-ed The Daily Californian campus newspaper in Sept. 2015.

Today, Kurz continues to work toward his environmental science, policy and management doctorate at UC Berkeley. Looking back on the incident, he told The College Fix last month, it remains one of the most outright and aggressive examples of discrimination he has ever faced from a professor.

“It would have been such a stimulating experience to participate in a class on this subject that gave fair and earnest treatment to the full spectrum of academic perspectives on early Jewish texts,” said Kurz, 25. Kurz2“Given the freedom to consider and compare arguments made by both secular and religious scholars, other students and I could have cultivated civil dialogue and mutual respect despite differing fundamental convictions.”

“However, as is too often the case in modern universities, the class was taught by a narrow-minded professor who prioritized the propagation of his own views over the intellectual exploration of his students.”

Kurz (pictured) said he’s faced subtler forms of bias over his college career as well, such as jokes about conservatives and Christians, unnecessary anti-religious comments in lectures, and statements to the effect that a secular or liberal viewpoint is the only reasonable perspective one could have.

Indeed, students with conservative political and religious perspectives typically encounter discrimination through one of two forms: either outright anti-religious and anti-conservative attitudes and comments, or a skewed and limited presentation of academic ideas that excludes scholarship seen as overly conservative or religious, he said.

“Unfortunately, it is very easy for these two related, but distinct, issues to be conflated,” he said. “I saw this with the response to my article: many readers ignored my point about academic freedom (I.e. the second category of discrimination), instead choosing to paint my critique as an expression of religious fundamentalism.”

Kurz, as an example, pointed to his professor’s rebuttal, which stated in part: “Academic inquiry is a different kind of discourse than confessions of faith. It has its own standards of evidence and inference, which sometimes clash with the doctrines of orthodox religious communities. Despite this friction, the standards of academic discourse are as essential to religious studies as they are to physics, evolutionary biology and geology — all of which also are inimical to fundamentalist doctrines.”

Kurz, in his email to The College Fix, noted that “commenters are correct that academic diversity does not mean that blind or ignorant confessions of faith ought to be considered academic scholarship, but they are missing the major point that whole categories of legitimate academic scholarship ought not to be automatically disregarded at the outset merely because they have fallen out of favor with the liberal establishment.”

Kurz’s advice to students who face similar situations?

“I would encourage students to be painfully clear in how they talk about the forms of discrimination they face in the academy. Doing so will help them avoid (to a degree) being pigeonholed and dismissed,” he said. “Also, I would encourage them to go out of their way to be civil and respectful in the way they express their frustration with domineering professors; it is fine to be outraged and passionate, but the message is even more powerful when you fight clean rather than sinking to the level of the professors who have mistreated you.”

“Finally, when possible I would encourage tough-skinned students to stick it out and stay in classes where they might be uncomfortable. They could still learn a lot in these classes and potentially, by thinking carefully about alternate views, even understand their own views more fully. In my case, it was so bad that I dropped the class, but in another situation I might have stayed.”

“It is hard to hold unpopular views in many of today’s universities, but the most important thing is to be faithful to yourself – what you know is true, and your personal standards of character,” Kurz concluded.

“I love the university context and there is so much good that happens through research and teaching at academic institutions. I just hope and pray that a diverse palette of perspectives can be expressed freely and that truth can be investigated unfettered in universities around our country and world.”
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/26464/
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Grandma 1




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Mar 05 2016, 10:49 pm
PinkFridge wrote:
I'm not comfortable bringing Ivanka into this. I think we can agree that no matter how strongly she identifies as a Jew, that's irrelevant to her father's positions: case in point, his neutrality on Israel.

It is clear beyond a shadow of a doubt that the RBSh'O is pulling strings because Trump seems to have an extraordinary and irrational degree of chen among people. Because he has said and done so much over the past few months that would be the kiss of death for anyone else:
- making fun of a handicapped reporter
- saying McCain's not a hero because he let himself get caught
- all the bluff in the debates such as "they'll listen to me" or "I'll make incredible deals", yadayadayada
- obnoxious unpresidential behavior
- the KKK
- ad nauseum.

The only silver lining I can see is that I heard that Al Sharpton said he'll leave the US if Trump becomes president. Iy"H we should be long gone under the leadership of Moshiach by then....

I agree with you. I have also been thinking for a while now, that Trump's popularity is so irrational, based on his obnoxious behavior, and crude, unpresidential talk. It boggles my mind, that the worse he gets, the more popular he becomes. The only answer that I can come up with, is that HaShem is, for some reason, controlling his popularity, despite his horrible behavior. It reminds me of when, in the Torah, it says that HaShem hardened the heart of Paroah, during the Makot in Mitzraim. I just don't know what to make of all this. At this point, I could never vote for Trump, although, I'm strongly against the Democrat candidates.
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