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zgp

Wed, May 16 2018, 2:15 pm

Does anyone have any help for a baby with really bad eczema? we have tried almost every cream under the sun, two dermatologists, allergy specialist. Does anyone have any tried and true advice?

anonymrs

Wed, May 16 2018, 2:25 pm

How old? What does baby eat?

Eczema almost always is a problem that needs to be healed from the inside out.

amother

Goldenrod

Wed, May 16 2018, 2:32 pm

Not OP, but can u give examples of what u mean? She said she went to an allergist...

amother

Tangerine

Wed, May 16 2018, 2:52 pm

My daughter who is 2 has Eczema on some areas like hands and feet. I have heard that the best is to use vaseline. The area needs to moisturized. Dry skin is the worst for Eczema. I havent either found that any creams really helped. They usually grow out of it over time.

cuties' mom

Wed, May 16 2018, 3:40 pm

When ds was a baby, the only thing that worked for his eczema was bathing every night and wearing wet cotton pajamas with dry cotton pajamas on top, also known as wet wraps. I also had to avoid all his allergens, he was on atarax for 2 weeks, and he was on a few prescription creams, but the wet wraps was our long term solution.

BH5745

Wed, May 16 2018, 3:44 pm

Many children who are allergic to cow milk develop eczema. Is there cow milk-based formula in your baby's diet? Can you switch her to another type of formula or better yet goat milk? Other common allergens are wheat, sugar, corn and soy. Adding more antioxidant rich foods, like fresh berries, sweet potatos, wild salmon and leafy greens should work wonders, although it takes weeks to rebalance the body, if one is coming off an improper diet.

Ezcema is an auto-immune condition, wherein the body essentially attacks its own skin. It means you need to get the immune system back into balance. All the creams in the world can't fix eczema. It must be healed from the inside out.

amother

Bronze

Wed, May 16 2018, 3:48 pm

Can you try an elimination diet?
My (nursing) baby got a bad case of eczema right after Pesach.
I traced it to the copious amounts of chocolate I ate pre- and during Pesach.
Went off chocolate ( Sad

), eczema hasn't come back...

zgp

Wed, May 16 2018, 4:26 pm

He is eight months and (because of the eczema which seems to get much worse every time I try to introduce any kind of solids) he is only nursing. I have stopped eating all milk and wheat - not really seen a difference. Wet wraps did not help. The allergy specialist said he didn't think it was allergy related. I have a feeling it is thrush related? Did anyone ever hear of thrush related eczema and what to do about it? It all started after he had thrush in his mouth.

BH5745

Wed, May 16 2018, 4:34 pm

zgp wrote:

Well that's frustrating! Maybe it is thrush related. What if you squeeze out some brest milk onto the skin a few times a day? I know breastmilk helps a host of infant maladies, so perhaps its useful for eczema as well?

zgp

Wed, May 16 2018, 4:44 pm

I would need a whole feed to cover his skin! but it doesnt sound right anyway - I have been trying to keep his skin very clean and heavily moisturized - milk is kind of sticky?

Teomima

Wed, May 16 2018, 4:55 pm

Less frequent bathing is what helped us. One of my daughters suffered horrible eczema as a baby and we tried so many specialty bath oils, creams, lotions, etc. But when we stopped bathing her nightly and reduced it to only a couple of times a week, her skin got a LOT better. After that, all she needed was regular lotion after her bath.

veiznisht

Wed, May 16 2018, 7:19 pm

As someone who has suffered from eczema since childhood to this day, it could really be any number of things. Don't deprive yourself of milk/wheat if it didn't immediately improve the condition. If it is allergy related, baby would need proper allergy testing because it could be anything.

I would make sure you use only sensitive skin shampoos, lotion, etc with no perfumes or junk. This includes all baby laundry, so sheets, clothing etc, all should be cleaned using sensitive, no smell detergent. Natural doesn't make a difference because natural could be an irritant just as easy as chemical.

Hatzlocha! Most babies grow out of it so hopefully you'll get over this one soon!

amother

Silver

Wed, May 16 2018, 8:19 pm

Did you do a full panel of allergy testing? That's the only way you'll know for sure. My child had terrible eczema from a bunch of random food allergies that I never would have figured out without real testing.

bsy

Wed, May 16 2018, 8:39 pm

I read that balmex (the diaper cream) can help. But I don't have personal experience.

lavender_dew

Wed, May 16 2018, 9:19 pm

My daughter developed eczema shortly after birth and it went all over her body in no particular pattern for months. The doctor didn't want to do anything yet because she was so young. Finally she was 3 months old and one day woke up with SCALES like a fish. She scratched until she bled. I called the office and said I'm coming TODAY, I've had enough of this. She prescribed an Rx oil called *DermaSmooth*. In 24 hours, her eczema was gone. It could only be used for a brief period (I think up to a certain amount of weeks or months). Allergy testing may not work as children's allergies can change/develop (at least my recent pediatrician told me this after our last one put my daughter through the full panel test while she screamed and ended up not having a single allergy). I hope you can find something that works for your baby! Good luck!

amother

Ecru

Wed, May 16 2018, 9:21 pm

Blood testing for allergies is not very accurate, in my experience, dowsing was more accurate in finding the cause.
Harsh laundry detergents like tide, and non-cotton clothing can also aggrevate it.

amother

Silver

Wed, May 16 2018, 9:23 pm

lavender_dew wrote:

Derma smooth is a steroid ointment. I was also told to use it for my child, though it didn't do enough as long as we didn't cut out the necessary allergens. I would proceed with extreme caution. (also, my other child was successfully diagnosed with food allergies at leas than 2 months old, and eczema completely disappeared).

amother

Azure

Wed, May 16 2018, 9:45 pm

My heart is absolutely breaking at this thread. I can almost guarantee that what at least two kids mentioned here have is no longer eczema but a different condition that develops when the eczema is mismanaged. And yes, both doctors and alternative doctors are guilty of mismanaging the condition.

I used to look like a burn victim. Entire body burning red, with those scales mentioned before. I spent ten years going from doctor to doctor to doctor. Nobody could help me. And then, I did my research and found info that is, baruch Hashem, now starting to get out.

There is a board certified dermatologist and medical professor over at UCLA that has helped heal over 4,000 "incurable" eczema patients -- including three people in my own family. Basically, steroids are one of the most misunderstood medications. This doctor, Dr. Marvin Rapaport, was tasked with finding "the hidden allergen" behind the sudden burst of red, rashy people that popped up in the 1970's, and after a tremendous amount of testing, he was able to trace everything back to the miracle drug invented in 1951: cortisone. (which is what all those creams and that Dermasmooth oil are made of.)

First things first: There IS a safe way to use steroids, and Dr. Rapaport gives them to certain patients with very specific instructions on how to use. He is NOT anti-steroids; he anti-bad medical training. And so am I.

To give you a quick rundown:

1. Steroids clear me/my kid up so beautifully! How can they bad?
Steroids work through a mechanism called vascoconstriction. That means they disable blood vessels, stopping blood flow to the surface of the skin, ergo: no rash. If it is used PROPERLY there is therapeutic benefit. If it is not, then the blood vessels (as well as nerves and skin cells and hormonal balance, etc...) become damaged. Most damage is in the blood vessels. Their job is to stay open, but when we shut them down either TOO FORCEFULLY with too strong of a medication, or for TOO LONG (using for more than 3-4 days a month), or apply them to the very thin, easily damaged areas of the body (face, armpits, groin), or we apply them to people with very thin skin (babies, small children, elderly) -- damage happens.

2. There is sooo much more to be said on this topic. If you'd like, ask questions and I'll try to post answers here. If you want medical studies, send an email to TSWfighter@gmail.com It is the Skin Healing Gemach.

amother

Azure

Wed, May 16 2018, 9:57 pm

I think I ended that too abruptly.

I explained how damage happens, but I didn't explain how it presents.

Basically, when a person stops using steroids, a rash will appear within 7-10 days if they have steroid damage (called Red Skin Syndrome). The rash will itch fiercely, then dry out and flake off. And then it may or may not clear up a bit before the next round hits. It is called "flaring."

The first few months, typically about 2 1/2 to 4 months, there is a drug washout period, or as we call it, "the honeymoon period." During that time there will be flaring, but it won't be horrific. All of a sudden, when the washout period is over, there is a huge flare up where the rashes start spreading. It can look like a very bad sunburn, or even like someone took a vat of boiling water and poured it over a person's head, or arm, etc. -- or even whole body.
The skin may be hot to the touch and there may be swelling and oozing.

At this point, everyone gets scared, and if they don't know what they are dealing with -- they usually end up in the ER, told that they have cellulitis and need strong antibiotics and prednisone and maybe even wet wraps.

But if the patient has steroid damage, this is the normal procession of events. And using more steroids restarts the whole damage to the body over again, from the beginning, increasing the damage.

What they need is comfort techniques and comfort medications and a knowledgeable doctor to oversee the withdrawal.

Every single person across the board with steroid damage heals, no matter how bad their so-called "eczema" is. For some it takes short, some takes longer. But they heal.

nyc123

Wed, May 16 2018, 10:52 pm

Start the baby on a good quality probiotic!! Look for one with activated b. infantis. Evivo is a great brand but it is expensive.. try to find something like that.

Edited to add: here is some info on how probiotics treat eczema https://www.evivo.com/reviews/.....czema

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