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boogiebabe
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Fri, Oct 19 2018, 4:38 pm
Hi. I'm curious about architecture as a career for a religious woman. Any architects here?
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mandksima
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 6:18 pm
I know a bunch in Israel!
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Amber
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 6:26 pm
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I have a friend who is also interested in this field but she is looking for someone who is in the field first to see if it's manageable as a career for a frum woman.
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33055
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 6:28 pm
There is a talented one in Monsey. She doesn't seem to be so active anymore. She's in her 80s.
Another Monsey firm employees 3 draftswomen who can draw. They work under a licensed architect who stamps their drawings. One of them is especially talented. Too bad the male gets the offical credit.
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Violet
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 6:34 pm
boogiebabe wrote: | Hi. I'm curious about architecture as a career for a religious woman. Any architects here? |
I don’t see why not, if you can get through the schooling and accreditation.
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amother
Copper
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 6:39 pm
amother wrote: | I don’t see why not, if you can get through the schooling and accreditation. |
You do work closely with men bent over a drafting table.
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Maya
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 6:57 pm
Squishy wrote: | There is a talented one in Monsey. She doesn't seem to be so active anymore. She's in her 80s.
Another Monsey firm employees 3 draftswomen who can draw. They work under a licensed architect who stamps their drawings. One of them is especially talented. Too bad the male gets the offical credit. |
Licensing requires an apprenticeship, so a leading architect will get “the credit” for several years until the women decide to get their own license. This is not a male or female issue; it’s just a necessary part of the field.
Do these women make their own designs and plans , or do they just draft whatever the architect designs? There’s a big difference between the two as well.
There’s another woman in Monsey who does architectural work, Mrs. Israel.
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Maya
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 6:59 pm
boogiebabe wrote: | Hi. I'm curious about architecture as a career for a religious woman. Any architects here? |
My husband employs a frum woman in his architectural firm. How do you see architecture being different than any other field, with regards to it being appropriate for frum women?
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thunderstorm
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 7:01 pm
Maya wrote: | Licensing requires an apprenticeship, so a leading architect will get “the credit” for several years until the women decide to get their own license. This is not a male or female issue; it’s just a necessary part of the field.
Do these women make their own designs and plans , or do they just draft whatever the architect designs? There’s a big difference between the two as well.
There’s another woman in Monsey who does architectural work, Mrs. Israel. |
There's a woman on Edwin Lane or the next block that is an architect. She actually was the architect for the house I used to live in. I'm not sure if that's Mrs Israel or someone else. I can't remember.
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33055
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 9:05 pm
Maya wrote: | Licensing requires an apprenticeship, so a leading architect will get “the credit” for several years until the women decide to get their own license. This is not a male or female issue; it’s just a necessary part of the field.
Do these women make their own designs and plans , or do they just draft whatever the architect designs? There’s a big difference between the two as well.
There’s another woman in Monsey who does architectural work, Mrs. Israel. |
I understand why it is done. It is just a shame that the light isn't shining on their accomplishments, so ladies like OP should know they are out there. Their boss is not a licensed architect either. My understanding is the boss gets the jobs.
One particular woman is especially talented and seems to intuit the clients needs. I only heard her growing praise second hand.
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tigerwife
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 9:07 pm
I work with architects on occasion and I don’t see any issue with it. If anything, once you are licensed and established, you can work from home which is great for frum women.
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Rubber Ducky
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 9:28 pm
I do residential and kitchen design but am not an architect — it's something I would definitely go for if I were 3 or 4 decades younger. But the tests for certification are very difficult and many architects do not earn that much. I have been considering getting certified as a building designer, which doesn't require a degree in architecture.
I know/have known a few Shomer Shabbos women architects. One is currently not working in that field, and the other works with her husband who is also an architect.
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PinkFridge
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 9:29 pm
A woman architect I know would discourage frum girls from the field. She said the training is lengthy and then, once you get a job it's grueling with serious time investment. (Think new lawyers.)
That said, there is a new field in architecture that doesn't involve the years of training, but one does have to work under others. I don't know how popular it is out of town.
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amother
Floralwhite
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 10:05 pm
My friend in her twenties is an architect.
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sequoia
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 10:06 pm
Poemmom is an architect
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Amber
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 10:31 pm
PinkFridge wrote: | A woman architect I know would discourage frum girls from the field. She said the training is lengthy and then, once you get a job it's grueling with serious time investment. (Think new lawyers.)
That said, there is a new field in architecture that doesn't involve the years of training, but one does have to work under others. I don't know how popular it is out of town. |
Do you have any more details on what this new field is or how one can go about getting certified?
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amother
Pumpkin
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Sun, Oct 21 2018, 11:26 pm
I am an architectural drafter working for a frum architect. I thought about becoming an architect myself, but the schooling is difficult and very long. There is no fast track. I also did not see myself having my own firm, but rather working for someone else, so I didn't think it would be cost effective. The reason some say that it isn't a good field for frum women is because you have to go on site and sometimes work with rough men, but in my experience, I found that if I command respect, I get it. I have had no bad experiences, even when dealing with somewhat unsavoury characters
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