Please help me calm down

amother

Bronze

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:11 pm

im a bit lost now and want all good imamothers to help me. I never gave any shots for a few reasons but mainly cuz im scared. now measels is going around. I feel like its the right thing to give mmr but my kids are older. and never got a shot. im going to give them the mmr shot. help me stay calm that theyll be ok and nothing bad will happen from this. and also that my younger kids will be fine even tho im not gonna give them now the shot.

watergirl

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:21 pm

Honestly, I’m not really sure if this is a serious post or at post to get everybody riled up for fun. But in case you are serious...

We cant calm you down and tell you that they will be ok. How can we? Are we neviim?! So what if your kids are older! Take them out of school now, give them a shot, and bring them back to school. Then follow up with boosters when the doctor tells you too. You should be scared, this is very serious thing.

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mom!

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:21 pm

Call your pediatrician ASAP!

amother

Amber

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:21 pm

amother wrote:

im a bit lost now and want all good imamothers to help me. I never gave any shots for a few reasons but mainly cuz im scared. now measels is going around. I feel like its the right thing to give mmr but my kids are older. and never got a shot. help me stay calm that theyll be ok and nothing bad will happen from this. and also that my younger kids will be fine even tho im not gonna give them now the shot.

Measles: a dangerous illness, by Roald Dahl (written in 1986)

Quote:

Awful drive. Lorries kept holding us up on narrow roads. Got to hospital. Ambulance went to wrong entrance. Backed out. Arrived. Young doctor in charge. Mervyn and he gave her 3mg sodium amatol. I sat in hall. Smoked. Felt frozen. A small single bar electric fire on wall. An old man in next room. Woman doctor went to phone. She was trying urgently to locate another doctor. He arrived. I went in. Olivia lying quietly. Still unconscious. She has an even chance, doctor said. They had tapped her spine. Not meningitis. It’s encephalitis. Mervyn left in my car. I stayed. Pat arrived and went in to see Olivia. Kissed her. Spoke to her. Still unconscious. I went in. I said, “Olivia… Olivia.” She raised her head slightly off pillow. Sister said don’t. I went out. We drank whiskey. I told doctor to consult experts. Call anyone. He called a man in Oxford. I listened. Instructions were given. Not much could be done. I first said I would stay on. Then I said I’d go back with Pat. Went. Arrived home. Called Philip Evans. He called hospital. Called me back. “Shall I come?” “Yes please.” I said I’d tell hospital he was coming. I called. Doc thought I was Evans. He said I’m afraid she’s worse. I got in the car. Got to hospital. Walked in. Two doctors advanced on me from waiting room. How is she? I’m afraid it’s too late. I went into her room. Sheet was over her. Doctor said to nurse go out. Leave him alone. I kissed her. She was warm. I went out. “She is warm.” I said to doctors in hall, “Why is she so warm?” “Of course,” he said. I left.

Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old.

As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn’t do anything.

“Are you feeling all right?” I asked her.

“I feel all sleepy, ” she said.

In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead.

The measles had turned into a terrible thing called measles encephalitis and there was nothing the doctors could do to save her.

That was twenty-four years ago in 1962, but even now, if a child with measles happens to develop the same deadly reaction from measles as Olivia did, there would still be nothing the doctors could do to help her.

On the other hand, there is today something that parents can do to make sure that this sort of tragedy does not happen to a child of theirs. They can insist that their child is immunised against measles. I was unable to do that for Olivia in 1962 because in those days a reliable measles vaccine had not been discovered. Today a good and safe vaccine is available to every family and all you have to do is to ask your doctor to administer it.

It is not yet generally accepted that measles can be a dangerous illness.

Believe me, it is. In my opinion parents who now refuse to have their children immunised are putting the lives of those children at risk.

In America, where measles immunisation is compulsory, measles like smallpox, has been virtually wiped out.

Here in Britain, because so many parents refuse, either out of obstinacy or ignorance or fear, to allow their children to be immunised, we still have a hundred thousand cases of measles every year.

Out of those, more than 10,000 will suffer side effects of one kind or another.

At least 10,000 will develop ear or chest infections.

About 20 will die. [NOTE: The number of deaths from measles has fallen to almost zero in the UK since this was written. The number of people affected by complications of measles has also fallen.]

LET THAT SINK IN.

Every year around 20 children will die in Britain from measles.

So what about the risks that your children will run from being immunised?

They are almost non-existent. Listen to this. In a district of around 300,000 people, there will be only one child every 250 years who will develop serious side effects from measles immunisation! That is about a million to one chance. I should think there would be more chance of your child choking to death on a chocolate bar than of becoming seriously ill from a measles immunisation.

So what on earth are you worrying about?

It really is almost a crime to allow your child to go unimmunised.

The ideal time to have it done is at 13 months, but it is never too late. All school-children who have not yet had a measles immunisation should beg their parents to arrange for them to have one as soon as possible.

Incidentally, I dedicated two of my books to Olivia, the first was James and the Giant Peach’. That was when she was still alive. The second was ‘The BFG’, dedicated to her memory after she had died from measles. You will see her name at the beginning of each of these books. And I know how happy she would be if only she could know that her death had helped to save a good deal of illness and death among other children.

ahuva06

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:21 pm

Your kids will be doing amazing after you go vaccinate them. And you'll feel really proud of yourself for doing something that was hard for you to do.

amother

Fuchsia

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:21 pm

They will be absolutely 100% fine. DOn't worry.

FranticFrummie

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:22 pm

What could anyone say that would make you feel better. I don't think anyone here can give you an iron clad promise that nobody ever has side effects, ever. The world just doesn't run that way. That's why we take educated risks, and weigh our choices carefully.

Do you trust your doctor?
Do you trust scientific research?
Do you want to take the chance that your kids will be infected?
Do you trust Hashem?

amother

Lemon

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:23 pm

amother wrote:

im a bit lost now and want all good imamothers to help me. I never gave any shots for a few reasons but mainly cuz im scared. now measels is going around. I feel like its the right thing to give mmr but my kids are older. and never got a shot. help me stay calm that theyll be ok and nothing bad will happen from this. and also that my younger kids will be fine even tho im not gonna give them now the shot.

Is this post for real? I think you know what you need to do.

ahuva06

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:24 pm

amother wrote:

They will be absolutely 100% fine. DOn't worry.

Oh, hey God!! Wave

amother

Bronze

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:24 pm

my op is a serious post. im a wellknown poster here. trying to change my posting style...
thanks for e/o who responded. my ped isnt doing it anymore cuz no time, they need appts for sick visits. im gonna go to central place wehre theyre giving it for free for e/o.

amother

Amethyst

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:25 pm

If you live in monsey, your kids would be out of school now till they're vaccinated.
Why would you only give the older kids & not the younger ones???

amother

Natural

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:26 pm

amother wrote:

im a bit lost now and want all good imamothers to help me. I never gave any shots for a few reasons but mainly cuz im scared. now measels is going around. I feel like its the right thing to give mmr but my kids are older. and never got a shot. help me stay calm that theyll be ok and nothing bad will happen from this. and also that my younger kids will be fine even tho im not gonna give them now the shot.

The decision as to whether or not to vaccinate must be your own. Not your doctor's, not your Imamothers'. Only your own.
As a rule, I aim to make decisions not out of fear, only from a place of peace. Bring yourself to a place of emotional peace and calm and make a decision from there.
May Hashem be chonen daas .

amother

Bronze

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:26 pm

watergirl wrote:

Honestly, I’m not really sure if this is a serious post or at post to get everybody riled up for fun. But in case you are serious...

We cant calm you down and tell you that they will be ok. How can we? Are we neviim?! So what if your kids are older! Take them out of school now, give them a shot, and bring them back to school. Then follow up with posters when the doctor tells you too. You should be scared, this is very serious thing.

do ou mean boosters?

FranticFrummie

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:27 pm

amother wrote:

If you live in monsey, your kids would be out of school now till they're vaccinated.
Why would you only give the older kids & not the younger ones???

I agree. The younger ones are every bit as much at risk! Why would you want them to get ill, and not the older ones? That makes no sense.

amother

Bronze

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:28 pm

amother wrote:

I'm not making decision out of fear. I cant go into it but theres a long backstory here. the thing is that the outbreak forced me to make a decision one way or antoher. cant push it off anymore.

watergirl

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:28 pm

amother wrote:

do ou mean boosters?

Lol yes. I’ll edit.

ahuva06

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:29 pm

amother wrote:

Good for you. Kol hakavod Yes

amother

Mustard

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:30 pm

amother wrote:

Im sorry but this makes me so upset OP. I understand youre scared. But your little ones need to be vaccinated! Why would you think they would be ok if ch"v they got the measles? You have the ability to protect them. Take all of your children and vaccinate them all. Protect them all. (I heard from someone that one of the children in monsey with measles is now in the ICU. This is scary)

amother

Bronze

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:30 pm

amother wrote:

If you live in monsey, your kids would be out of school now till they're vaccinated.
Why would you only give the older kids & not the younger ones???

because im scared of giving to such little kids. older kids could handle it better, no?

pesek zman

Thu, Nov 01 2018, 12:31 pm

I work in a major NYC children’s hospital and we had a confirmed measles pt this week.