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nanny24/7




 
 
    
 

Post Sat, Jan 12 2019, 9:21 pm
I am not on the keto diet yet but am very interested in it. I am concerned though if it's for me since I am prediabetic.
Is ketosis not dangerous for me?
I will speak to my endocrinologist about this this week.
Also I might need to do less than the recommended protein amount since I have OTC deficiency (which means my body doesn't properly digest Ornithine one of the amino acids which can cause elevated ammonia levels in the blood). For this reason I can't safely fast and I am supposed to avoid protein when I am sick. I was once told by a metabolic specialist to limit my protein to only 4 ozes a day but he then basically retracted his statement and said it is unclear what the diet plan for this deficiency should be.
As far as ideas of how to eat more fat I eat "earth balance organic coconut spread" it is a 10 oz container that needs to be kept in the fridge. I eat 1 tablespoon of it at a time plain with a spoon and it tastes yummy. It doesn't stick to your throat like almond butter does when you try to eat it plain although I eat all butters plain personally.
1 tablespoon serving has 11 grams fat, 5 grams saturated fat and 0 protein or carbs. It also has 65 mg of sodium.
I also drink at least 2 cups of unsweetened almond milk per day with 2 tablespoons of peanut butter and 1 tablespoon pure. 100% coconut butter mixed in which gives me another 30 grams of fat a day.
My second choice to coconut spread for a fat you can eat plain out of a spoon is sunflower seed butter. I often have 2 tablespoons of that at breakfast. I prefer the one that's 100% sunflower seeds with no added sugar or salt.
I am already on a high fat low carb diet but haven't gone officially keto and haven't done any counting of grams/calories....
Good luck!!
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amother
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Post Sun, Jan 13 2019, 6:17 am
nanny24/7 wrote:
I am not on the keto diet yet but am very interested in it. I am concerned though if it's for me since I am prediabetic.
Is ketosis not dangerous for me?
I will speak to my endocrinologist about this this week.
Also I might need to do less than the recommended protein amount since I have OTC deficiency (which means my body doesn't properly digest Ornithine one of the amino acids which can cause elevated ammonia levels in the blood). For this reason I can't safely fast and I am supposed to avoid protein when I am sick. I was once told by a metabolic specialist to limit my protein to only 4 ozes a day but he then basically retracted his statement and said it is unclear what the diet plan for this deficiency should be.
As far as ideas of how to eat more fat I eat "earth balance organic coconut spread" it is a 10 oz container that needs to be kept in the fridge. I eat 1 tablespoon of it at a time plain with a spoon and it tastes yummy. It doesn't stick to your throat like almond butter does when you try to eat it plain although I eat all butters plain personally.
1 tablespoon serving has 11 grams fat, 5 grams saturated fat and 0 protein or carbs. It also has 65 mg of sodium.
I also drink at least 2 cups of unsweetened almond milk per day with 2 tablespoons of peanut butter and 1 tablespoon pure. 100% coconut butter mixed in which gives me another 30 grams of fat a day.
My second choice to coconut spread for a fat you can eat plain out of a spoon is sunflower seed butter. I often have 2 tablespoons of that at breakfast. I prefer the one that's 100% sunflower seeds with no added sugar or salt.
I am already on a high fat low carb diet but haven't gone officially keto and haven't done any counting of grams/calories....
Good luck!!


You need to study up on ketogenic diet
It is the perfect diet for pre-diabetics to stop from becoming diabetics.
It is a healing diet.
You don’t have to fast.


It is NOT a high protein diet
It is NOT Atkins.
On a ketogenic diet you eat
80% of calories from fat
15% from protein
5% from fat
You can go with an even lower percentage of protein if you need to.

It is tailored made for you, meaning that it all depends on the macro nutrients that YOUR body needs.

According to my body needs I should only consume 51g of protein a day. That translates to no more than 3oz twice a day of fish, chicken, meat, eggs, cheese. It’s only a small portion. The rest of my plate is filled with low carb veggies sautéed in fat or oil.

FAT must come from healthy sources. Don’t know about earth balance coconut spread.
Best is to use coconut oil, olive oil, butter, fat from meat sources, omega 3 from fish, flax, etc.

You can watch videos on YouTube.
Dr. Jason Fung - kidney doctor
Dr. Ken Berry - dr. of internal medicine
Dr. Berg - chiropractor
These are real drs who treat their patients with this type of eating.?
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Chana Miriam S




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jan 13 2019, 6:27 am
Helpful site with science based info http://kosherketogenic.com/
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OOTBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jan 13 2019, 9:22 am
andrea levy wrote:
Go NSNG. I sent you the PDF. Forget macros. Eat to satiety. Don’t overthink it.

I've read that PDF numerous times. My problem is that I have no idea (without using macros) what to eat and what to avoid (I've found numerous things that have carbs that I wouldn't have expected and I need to work on getting in fat). Plus, since I am primarily doing this to lose weight, it looks like for me macros are the way to go. Could be that once I am more used to it and have a better handle on the foods I may be able to skip the macros.
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Chana Miriam S




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jan 13 2019, 10:01 am
OOTBubby wrote:
I've read that PDF numerous times. My problem is that I have no idea (without using macros) what to eat and what to avoid (I've found numerous things that have carbs that I wouldn't have expected and I need to work on getting in fat). Plus, since I am primarily doing this to lose weight, it looks like for me macros are the way to go. Could be that once I am more used to it and have a better handle on the foods I may be able to skip the macros.


Whatever you do, don’t let macros become the reason you don’t do it. I stand by my statement that you start by killing the carb addiction and then move on to eating less. I know a lot of people, who lost weight and got healthy, no counting. Including me.
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OOTBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jan 13 2019, 10:03 am
andrea levy wrote:
Whatever you do, don’t let macros become the reason you don’t do it. I stand by my statement that you start by killing the carb addiction and then move on to eating less. I know a lot of people, who lost weight and got healthy, no counting. Including me.

No, I don't intend to let the macros make me fail. I just need them so that I know how to eat right. I figure that once that is mastered I should be able to drop the macros.
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Chana Miriam S




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jan 13 2019, 11:34 am
OOTBubby wrote:
No, I don't intend to let the macros make me fail. I just need them so that I know how to eat right. I figure that once that is mastered I should be able to drop the macros.


You know I support you fully! You are crushing this!
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cbg




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jan 13 2019, 1:17 pm
OOT Bubby
Your Avitar shows HCG
Out of curiosity
Would you do HCG again?
Why, why not?
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OOTBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jan 13 2019, 1:21 pm
cbg wrote:
OOT Bubby
Your Avitar shows HCG
Out of curiosity
Would you do HCG again?
Why, why not?

I am actually surprised that this is the first time I was asked this. I found (and still think) that the homeopathic HCG is the best diet I was ever on, particularly for rapid weight loss, plus the maintenance part of it is virtually the same as a Keto diet.

I would definitely consider doing it again except that I can longer handle dealing with the great amount of special cooking involved or the fact that (during the weight loss phase) I couldn't eat anything other than what I specially prepared. Nowadays we eat out for one Shabbos meal (at one of our kids) almost every week and that would be too hard to handle.

Despite the fact that it isn't for me at this time, I still think that it is a fantastic option (particularly coupled with a Keto type maintenance) for those that can do it.
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OOTBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 15 2019, 2:22 pm
amother wrote:
Ok I think this is the right, I’ll double check on Sunday.

Your ideal weight for a BMI of 22 is 120.5.
Reguardless if you don’t want to be that thin, your body will be happy at that amount of calories.

120.5 lbs= 55 kilos (rounded)

That means 55 g of protein

Resting Metabolic Rate for 120.5, 65, 5’2”
1369 calories

Macros are
Calories 1369
Fat 119g
Protein 55g
Carbs 20g
As someone pointed out it’s better to do total carbs and not net carbs, but it’s hard to do that and eat the keto breads and treats.

No one Can promise you Weightloss of 1 lb a week, because the weeks you don’t lose, your body is healing itself.
This is a healing diet for metabolic disorders and diseases.
If you are overweight chances are you do have insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome.

I wanted to report back that I am using the figures you recommend above and I'm doing much better. I am still not quite reaching 119g of fat, but am getting over 110, often 115, a little under on the protein and way under on the carbs.

Your suggesting of the unsweetened chocolate almond milk was helpful too; I add fat to it with either butter, cream or peanut butter. Unfortunately it doesn't work well as a (ice added) smoothie -- as I found previously with regular almond milk, somehow it just doesn't blend with the ice (unlike cow's milk or even soy milk). But it is acceptable and helps me to get in more fat with these additions.

I won't weigh myself until Sunday, but I feel much more in control of things now.
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ra_mom




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 15 2019, 2:32 pm
OOTBubby wrote:
I wanted to report back that I am using the figures you recommend above and I'm doing much better. I am still not quite reaching 119g of fat, but am getting over 110, often 115, a little under on the protein and way under on the carbs.

Your suggesting of the unsweetened chocolate almond milk was helpful too; I add fat to it with either butter, cream or peanut butter. Unfortunately it doesn't work well as a (ice added) smoothie -- as I found previously with regular almond milk, somehow it just doesn't blend with the ice (unlike cow's milk or even soy milk). But it is acceptable and helps me to get in more fat with these additions.

I won't weigh myself until Sunday, but I feel much more in control of things now.

Are you allowed to have coconut milk? What if you whip that up or do that with heavy cream instead of the almond milk?
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OOTBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 15 2019, 2:33 pm
I hadn't thought of that, but I could try the coconut milk. Though I don't know if that comes in an unsweetened chocolate version which is what I would need. I'll take a look when I'm in the store. Thanks for the suggestion.
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ra_mom




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 15 2019, 2:38 pm
OOTBubby wrote:
I hadn't thought of that, but I could try the coconut milk. Though I don't know if that comes in an unsweetened chocolate version which is what I would need. I'll take a look when I'm in the store. Thanks for the suggestion.

I guess cocoa is a no no to add in while whipping?
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OOTBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 15 2019, 2:38 pm
Cocoa has too many carbs.
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amother
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Post Wed, Jan 16 2019, 5:59 pm
OOTBubby wrote:
I wanted to report back that I am using the figures you recommend above and I'm doing much better. I am still not quite reaching 119g of fat, but am getting over 110, often 115, a little under on the protein and way under on the carbs.

Your suggesting of the unsweetened chocolate almond milk was helpful too; I add fat to it with either butter, cream or peanut butter. Unfortunately it doesn't work well as a (ice added) smoothie -- as I found previously with regular almond milk, somehow it just doesn't blend with the ice (unlike cow's milk or even soy milk). But it is acceptable and helps me to get in more fat with these additions.

I won't weigh myself until Sunday, but I feel much more in control of things now.



Good for you OOT Bubby.
If you have a Trader Joe’s near you.
Check out there non dairy milks you may find unsweetened chocolate coconut milk.
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OOTBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Jan 16 2019, 6:02 pm
amother wrote:
Good for you OOT Bubby.
If you have a Trader Joe’s near you.
Check out there non dairy milks you may find unsweetened chocolate coconut milk.

Thanks for the suggestion. I do have TJ nearby and I go there at least every other week already. I'll look at the drink selection.

I have also cut out all of the Stevia (even returned an opened bag) with the bad bulk fillers and now only use either the tiny packets without fillers or the organic drops. I am using some Erythritol for baking things, but not much.

I finally feel satiated without question too.
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Tzippy323




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 28 2019, 1:48 pm
Here is an idea for helping you to get your fat up. I call it everything bageless cream cheese and lox.

Take an eight ounce pack of cream cheese, not whipped, and put it in a bowl. Whip it with an immersion blender. Shred about 5 ounces of lox. Dump that into the bowl with the cream cheese and use the immersion blender on it until everything is nice and combined. Refrigerate this for about an hour so it will be easier to handle.

Make small balls of the mixture, you should get about twenty balls. Roll each one in everything mix. Freeze them and when you need to boost your fat intake, let one sit in the fridge for about half an hour.

These are delicious and you will think you are eating the real thing. Good luck on your journey.
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amother
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Post Tue, Jan 29 2019, 9:27 am
Tzippy323 wrote:
Here is an idea for helping you to get your fat up. I call it everything bageless cream cheese and lox.

Take an eight ounce pack of cream cheese, not whipped, and put it in a bowl. Whip it with an immersion blender. Shred about 5 ounces of lox. Dump that into the bowl with the cream cheese and use the immersion blender on it until everything is nice and combined. Refrigerate this for about an hour so it will be easier to handle.

Make small balls of the mixture, you should get about twenty balls. Roll each one in everything mix. Freeze them and when you need to boost your fat intake, let one sit in the fridge for about half an hour.

These are delicious and you will think you are eating the real thing. Good luck on your journey.


Yum sounds good.

Please share other recipes
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Tzippy323




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Jan 30 2019, 2:50 pm
You asked for more recipes. Here is one of my favorites. It is for a keto macadamia nut bead.

Take five ounces of macadamia nuts, nor roasted, and pulverize them in a food processor until they begin to look like peanut butter. Add five large eggs and keep the processor going. Add one fourth cup of coconut flour,one half teaspoon of each apple cider vinegar and baking soda. Process for about three or four minutes.

Pour into a loaf pan that you have sprayed with coconut oil. Bake at 350 F for 35 to 40 minutes. Let it cool completely before slicing.

A serving size is one slice. The loaf should make ten slices. You can spread with butter or cream cheese for a really nice addition to lunch. Enjoy!
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OOTBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Jan 30 2019, 2:53 pm
Tzippy323 wrote:
You asked for more recipes. Here is one of my favorites. It is for a keto macadamia nut bead.

Take five ounces of macadamia nuts, nor roasted, and pulverize them in a food processor until they begin to look like peanut butter. Add five large eggs and keep the processor going. Add one fourth cup of coconut flour,one half teaspoon of each apple cider vinegar and baking soda. Process for about three or four minutes.

Pour into a loaf pan that you have sprayed with coconut oil. Bake at 350 F for 35 to 40 minutes. Let it cool completely before slicing.

A serving size is one slice. The loaf should make ten slices. You can spread with butter or cream cheese for a really nice addition to lunch. Enjoy!


I made this since it had such great reviews and I really didn't care for it. So far I've tried this, one with almond flour and the one I posted up thread and I prefer the one I posted. I also have a "rye bread" recipe that I want to try.
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