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amother




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Post  Wed, Jan 30 2019, 2:46 pm
simcha2 wrote:
Officials were very open that separation of children was to act as a deterrent. That is by definition purposeful cruelty.

(I have to drive a relative somewhere, so I'm signing off... not running away)


DACA.

Trump moved to end DACA (putting in place a 6-month period for Congress to act). But at the same time, he has praised both the program and the so-called Dreamers.

https://twitter.com/realDonald.....weets

https://twitter.com/realDonald.....weets
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amother




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Post  Wed, Jan 30 2019, 2:46 pm
simcha2 wrote:
Officials were very open that separation of children was to act as a deterrent. That is by definition purposeful cruelty.

(I have to drive a relative somewhere, so I'm signing off... not running away)


Possibly cruel to the individual, with the intent of preventing larger, greater harm to many, including the children themselves.
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amother




Aqua
 

Post  Wed, Jan 30 2019, 2:48 pm
simcha2 wrote:
Examples and proof, no rhetoric.

And why, amother?


Can't prove intent, only point out that they're the ones who benefit from these policies
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Fox




 
 
 
 

Post  Wed, Jan 30 2019, 2:51 pm
simcha2 wrote:
Officials were very open that separation of children was to act as a deterrent. That is by definition purposeful cruelty.

That was only one of several reasons, and I find it hard to believe that you are genuinely okay promoting human trafficking and rape. Because those are the unintended consequences of lax border enforcement.

To me, those are not minor consequences.

If you want to argue that we should address immigration law, I'm 100 percent behind you. Yes, I agree that separating children from their parents is a bad thing, though only a small percentage of minors arriving are doing so with their parents.

But insisting on a policy that makes you feel better -- no matter how many girls are raped; no matter how many immigrants are left to die in the desert by coyotes; no matter how much child trafficking goes on as a result -- that's a level of cruelty that I can't comprehend.
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sequoia




 
 
 
 

Post  Wed, Jan 30 2019, 5:18 pm
But there is neither east nor west
Nor border nor breed nor birth
When two strong men stand face to face
Though they come from the ends of the earth

- Kipling, I think
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Fox




 
 
 
 

Post  Wed, Jan 30 2019, 6:40 pm
amother wrote:
This thread has been locked and cleaned up once already because nasty, personal comments like this are not necessary.


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sequoia




 
 
 
 

Post  Wed, Jan 30 2019, 7:09 pm
Fox wrote:


The eyes of the IRA they are upon you
Oh Maggie Thatcher dear
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Post  Wed, Jan 30 2019, 7:18 pm
sequoia wrote:
The eyes of the IRA they are upon you
Oh Maggie Thatcher dear

And they only had to be lucky once . . .
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amother




Wine
 

Post  Fri, Feb 01 2019, 9:42 am
Fox wrote:
I'm guessing you don't remember the Reagan era. Trickle-down economics worked pretty well -- it just doesn't work fast.



That's funny. Reaganomics works slow but Trumpnomics works super fast. Trump supporters have been touting Trump's economy since his election--even before he took office! It was in the toilet under Obama and then like magic, the day Trump was elected it suddenly took off.
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amother




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Post  Fri, Feb 01 2019, 9:46 am
abhor any terrorists and their threats
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