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amother
Periwinkle


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 3:01 am
I'm curious if anyone has any information regarding a homeopathic approach to help ease ADHD symptoms of impulsiveness and difficulty concentrating. My son is 9. We have tried every drug out there, and within a few weeks he becomes a moody angry mess. The first few days on a new drug are amazing, he listens and gets it and enjoys the feeling of being able to learn, but then it goes downhill and he becomes angry and we have to take him off. I believe he's very sensitive to medications which is why I'm wondering if a gentler, homeopathic remedy may actually work well for him. The psychiatrist said there is nothing more to try and we should put him in special ed ( he is extremely adept socially- is popular and well liked and special ed would NOT be a fit for him). Has anyone had REAL success with homeopathy for ADHD?? Thank you so much
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amother
Violet


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 3:19 am
That sounds very hard.

There is a boy in my son's class that is 12 now, that has severe adhd and epilepsy. Adhd meds cause him to have seizures. A few years ago he did dynamic neurofeedback and he is much better. He still has a bit of add but not like it was before he did it.

Good luck.
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amother
Periwinkle


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 3:30 am
Interesting. I'm a bit of a skeptic but I guess its time to be more open minded considering I;m out of options. Anyone else have success with neurofeedback?
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imasinger




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 4:03 am
I gave neurofeedback a solid try for my DS. It cost a boatload of money, and didn't do anything much. In the years since then, I've spoken to lots of experienced people, and they all said it wasn't helpful for ADHD. (Unlike my nephew with epilepsy, for whom it was life changing).

Can you list which meds you've tried, and whether ER, XR, etc? There are many combinations, and sometimes, things "work", but with side effects that can be remedied. You often need a super good psychopharmacologist to help you explore. If your doctor is saying nothing works and put him in special education, maybe you need to change doctors.

What other things are you doing besides meds? A good therapist or coach can teach organization strategies. Many people try changes in diet, essential oils, making sure the kid gets physical aerobic exercise every day, etc.

Hatzlacha!
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amother
Lavender


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 5:00 am
amother wrote:
Interesting. I'm a bit of a skeptic but I guess its time to be more open minded considering I;m out of options. Anyone else have success with neurofeedback?


We tried it. Cost a fortune. We were desperate. Did nothing.
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amother
Amber


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 5:37 am
I am sure you tried this if you have exhausted your medicine options but we just tried something new with my very adhd 12 year old. Instead of his normal 72mg of vayvanse we gave him 40 mg of regular ritalin (no slow release) and then a booster dose of 20 mg later in the day. He is so happy! He can eat better, sleep better, and he says he feels better on it. Have you tried something like this (obviously playing around with dosages until you find the right one for your child)
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mochamix18




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 5:43 am
I know this isn’t always the recommended med because it doesn’t kick in immediately but have you considered or tried strattera? I’m asking because for me it was the only option and I can’t take stimulants for ADD. It was recommended to me I my 20s by a dr who was an expert childhood behavioral medicine, not psychiatrist.
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amother
Periwinkle


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 6:10 am
We tried Ritalin Strattera Vyvanse Attent Focalin. Strattera lasted the longest until he had to go off of it, but he lost his personality on it. And re fiddling with the dosages- I'm talking SUPER sensitive- he's 9 and we had him on 10 mg of Ritalin LA and he turned into an angry depressed mess. Apparently there are some people who just can't handle the medicine. I have another kid on meds and other family members- this particular child just can't seem to tolerate them.
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amother
Seagreen


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 6:36 am
He hasn't tried that many non stimulants. I'm wondering if a different psychiatrist might be able to think a little more out of the box?
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amother
Oak


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 6:55 am
Tenex or Intuniv are non stimulants and can be very effective

I would be wary of continuing with a psychiatrist who gives up so easily
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amother
Periwinkle


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 7:16 am
amother wrote:
Tenex or Intuniv are non stimulants and can be very effective

I would be wary of continuing with a psychiatrist who gives up so easily


Interesting. I wonder if these drugs are available where I live (israel). I will mention and see what she says. I appreciate all the responses. Please keep them coming if anyone has anything else to add!
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amother
Seagreen


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 7:35 am
amother wrote:
Tenex or Intuniv are non stimulants and can be very effective

I would be wary of continuing with a psychiatrist who gives up so easily


I agree. Those are not far fetched options, and I'm surprised he tried so many stimulants with adverse reaction and didn't focus more heavily on non stimulants.
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mimom




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 8:29 am
http://honestlyadhd.com/mthfr-magical/
Interesting!! Has anyone heard of this?
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amother
Blue


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 8:36 am
Ive heard that a combination of lithium and magnesium can really help. I havent tried it yet and I dont know any more about it but its worth looking into
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amother
Firebrick


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 9:27 am
OP you should inquire about genetic testing to see what is going on with your child's reactions to medications.
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amother
Seagreen


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 9:31 am
amother wrote:
OP you should inquire about genetic testing to see what is going on with your child's reactions to medications.


Op's description of her child's reaction to stimulants is very normal. Many kids don't tolerate stimulants well, which is why there's such a wide range of other options.
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ectomorph




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 10:33 am
mimom wrote:
http://honestlyadhd.com/mthfr-magical/
Interesting!! Has anyone heard of this?

Its all the rage on several of my mom groups. Mthfr really is a cause for lots of kids especially thise who present w anemia. Since you need folic acid to process iron.
But it's not a cure all
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Chana Miriam S




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 10:40 am
amother wrote:
I'm curious if anyone has any information regarding a homeopathic approach to help ease ADHD symptoms of impulsiveness and difficulty concentrating. My son is 9. We have tried every drug out there, and within a few weeks he becomes a moody angry mess. The first few days on a new drug are amazing, he listens and gets it and enjoys the feeling of being able to learn, but then it goes downhill and he becomes angry and we have to take him off. I believe he's very sensitive to medications which is why I'm wondering if a gentler, homeopathic remedy may actually work well for him. The psychiatrist said there is nothing more to try and we should put him in special ed ( he is extremely adept socially- is popular and well liked and special ed would NOT be a fit for him). Has anyone had REAL success with homeopathy for ADHD?? Thank you so much


Our son on the autism spectrum with attention issues is like another person since he started a ketogenic cdiet. My adhd husband says he feels like a superhero and has never been so organized and calm. I have add also but was never on medication and feel so overall better and clearer minded that I’d have to agree. The magic pill is an excellent documentary to see the effects in. They have been treating children with epilepsy with an extreme form of the diet since the early 1900’s so there is a legitimate effect neurologically. I only regret that we didn’t take it more seriously when our son was growing up.
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mha3484




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 10:56 am
What kind of eval did you do to diagnose ADHD? If he has any underlying anxiety in addition to the ADHD stimulants will make it worse. Also sometimes its a very fine line between ADHD and HFA. The grey area here is major.

Personally, I have an 8 year old that has a big mix of issues (ADHD, verbally gifted and some ASD traits). When the intuniv he was taking was not enough anymore we were having a period of major family upheaval so we were very nervous to put him on a stimulant. We did not want to take any anxious feelings he was having and ratchet them up so we added straterra and have seen some good improvement. We also have a whole natural cocktail he takes in addition to the meds. He takes zinc, magnesium and a very specific brand of fish oil. It works well in addition to conventional meds. We did not have great success with it as a replacement.

Also, parenting is huge. We found that using the book the explosive child and its methods have helped a lot with the moods that seem to get stronger and stronger. I see a lot of super super rigid parenting in some ADHD groups that I am in and I think it rarely works long term.
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amother
Periwinkle


 

Post Mon, Mar 18 2019, 11:23 am
OP here- Thank you all for all these responses. Yes there is some underlying depression/ anxiety. We started zoloft about two months ago and he responded amazingly, he's feeling good, happy, social etc. So we figured we'd try ritalin again because he's in a better place emotionally- but it was awful.
He was diagnosed by a pediatric developmental specialist and again by a psychiatrist. he has no signs of ASD- super friendly, loves people, connects easily and extremely popular. But he can't sit in class. and he can't focus on learning. And he's falling further and further behind.

To the person who mentioned genetic testing- specifically for the MTFHR gene?

This isn't a child I can put on a keto diet. He loves his snacks and pizza etc and we aren't a rigid household, I can't imagine him going through his day denying himself every snack in the book. I just don't think its possible- he has zero self control. it would just end in him cheating, hiding or stealing.
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