Is there an English word to replace the yiddish word טאקע?

Sunny Days

Sat, May 04 2019, 11:52 pm

How about translation for ‘tzigeluzen’? I’m having a hard time with that.

youngishbear

Sun, May 05 2019, 12:14 am

gamzehyaavor wrote:

How about translation for ‘tzigeluzen’? I’m having a hard time with that.

Approachable seems appropriate, but it would depend on context.

WhatFor

Sun, May 05 2019, 12:24 am

cinnamon wrote:

There is also no good English translation for the Hebrew "אין לי כח"
It's something between 'I can't' and 'I don't want to' or 'I don't feel like it'

I think "I don't have the energy" works because of how it's commonly used. Like, "I don't have the energy to deal with this right now" IMO works better than "I can't be bothered" or "I don't want to."

PinkFridge

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:20 am

Re takeh: Don't remember what I was reading but it said, "Gee," and I thought, wow, takeh would have worked really well there.

amother

Coral

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:40 am

The british phrase "I cant be bothered" is almost exactly ein li koach. It doesnt mean dont bother me.

amother

Cobalt

Sun, May 05 2019, 1:45 pm

My Russian friend translates אן לי כח as "I dont have power" meaning "I dont have motivation"

nchr

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:17 pm

etky wrote:

Took me a while to realize that לפרגן is actually to 'fargin'. I had never connected the two until one day it just registered. And you're right - it's a very nuanced word and there is no one English equivalent.

Depending on the context some close English words would be benevolent/benevolence or accede.

crust

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:23 pm

nchr wrote:

Depending on the context some close English words would be benevolent/benevolence or accede.

There's nothing like זי פארגינט מיר נישט.
She doesn't fargin me.

I think I'm just a Yiddish nostalgiste!

nchr

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:25 pm

crust wrote:

There's nothing like זי פארגינט מיר נישט.
She doesn't fargin me.

I think I'm just a Yiddish nostalgiste!

She won't accede to my xyz.
Obviously languages have cultural aspects, but I think that not only can you translate fargin nicely (although sometimes with multiple words or within a context), but that English speaks fargin very well.

yksraya

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:28 pm

crust wrote:

There's nothing like זי פארגינט מיר נישט.
She doesn't fargin me.

I think I'm just a Yiddish nostalgiste!

Actually it would be "she envies me"

But for "ich fargin deer geren" you can not find a replacement. It's a jewish middah.

crust

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:29 pm

nchr wrote:

Accede doesn't do fargin justice.
I already admitted to nastolgia so....

Sunny Days

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:31 pm

Grada, I bichlal have not found good replacements for these words. Hagam, there are some, nothing fits as smoothly in as above words.

edited: I bolded above words I'm interested in hearing a good translation. sorry, no yiddish keyboard.

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Sunny Days

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:33 pm

crust wrote:

There's nothing like זי פארגינט מיר נישט.
She doesn't fargin me.

I think I'm just a Yiddish nostalgiste!

Imoi unoichi

crust

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:35 pm

yksraya wrote:

Actually it would be "she envies me"

But for "ich fargin deer geren" you can not find a replacement. It's a jewish middah.

She envies me would be zee iz meech mekane.
Its different to not fargin that to be mekana.

Alice is jealous (kina) that Mrs A has new earrings.

Betsy can't digest (cant fargin) that Mrs A has new earrings.

The difference is subtle but it's there.

crust

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:35 pm

gamzehyaavor wrote:

Hen hacha nama

Sunny Days

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:36 pm

crust wrote:

May I nitpick?

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nchr

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:37 pm

gamzehyaavor wrote:

1. Grada, I 2. bichlal have not found good replacements for these words. Hagam, there are some, nothing fits as smoothly in as above words.

edited: I bolded above words I'm interested in hearing a good translation. sorry, no yiddish keyboard.

1. Simply, By the Way, Happens to Be
2. Generally, At All

Sunny Days

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:39 pm

crust wrote:

Hen hacha nama

Lachatchila I wasn't gonna derail the thread with other words, but l'masa I saw it was already derailed and a spinoff was not needed.

Sunny Days

Sun, May 05 2019, 9:41 pm

nchr wrote:

1. Simply, By the Way, Happens to Be
2. Generally, At All

these are good, but nothing as quick and gedreit as grada or bichlal.

crust

Sun, May 05 2019, 10:27 pm

gamzehyaavor wrote:

May I nitpick?

Yes.
It's meech not meer.
I can teach you Yiddish if you want. Smile