Charnie Vs Trany | Imamother

Laiya

Thu, Jul 11 2019, 10:13 pm

amother [ Teal ] wrote:

My great Grandmothers name was Try-nah. Apparently it actually came from Katrina, and I have heard that a female relative of the Vilan Goan had the same name.

Interesting, I once knew a non-religious woman named Trina, rhymes with Reena. She said she was named for her grandmother. Katrina makes sense.

Laiya

Thu, Jul 11 2019, 10:15 pm

SixOfWands wrote:

Something could hypothetically become offensive in the future. So we shouldn't worry about giving our children names that are extremely offensive to large portions of the population now, that will forever mark them outside of their very insular communities.

Particularly here, where we're discussing what is apparently a bad transliteration, and where a more accurate transliteration wouldn't be problematic.

Reminds me, I once read an article by an Indian man, describing how hard it was to pick a name for his baby. He finally had settled on the perfect, beautiful name, but then his Jewish friend talked him out of it: Shiva.

pesek zman

Thu, Jul 11 2019, 10:29 pm

Laiya wrote:

I wonder if it was meant to be pronounced Sheeva. I know several Indian women named Sheeva

unexpected

Thu, Jul 11 2019, 10:52 pm

amother [ cornflower ] wrote:

How is the vowel in Tronny a different pronunciation than in Chani? Chani would technically be pronounced, Chonny. But I agree that looks weird.

My name is Chana and non Jews often have no idea what to do with the /a/, they try to make it a long /a/ like chain-a, rhymes with Shayna.

If the name is Trana like Chana, and the nickname is Trani like Chani, then why would people not put the name Trana on the birth certificate? Most Chanis I know are legally Chana. I'm sorry if this is a cultural thing for you, but the word tranny is a mean word and its not going away. And it's such an easy fix...

Fox

Fri, Jul 12 2019, 12:06 am

Laiya wrote:

This reminds me of a medical specialist my DH once saw: Dr. Mahnish Tannah. When he saw my husband's yarmulke, he gave a weary smile and said, "Don't bother. I've heard every possible joke from my colleagues for the past 30 years."

FranticFrummie

Fri, Jul 12 2019, 10:59 am

Fox wrote:

It took me a minute, but now I can't stop laughing! LOL

Was he really different from all other doctors?

amother

Blue

Fri, Jul 12 2019, 11:52 am

Laiya wrote:

Was the Indian Jewish? Shiva is a god in Hinduism, I believe, so not understanding why his friend would talk him out of it...

amother

Amethyst

Fri, Jul 12 2019, 12:03 pm

Fox wrote:

Perhaps he needs to associate with Hashem J. Hashem

https://www.westmedgroup.com/p.....shem/

SixOfWands

Fri, Jul 12 2019, 12:05 pm

amother [ Blue ] wrote:

Was the Indian Jewish? Shiva is a god in Hinduism, I believe, so not understanding why his friend would talk him out of it...

Because of how the name would be perceived by the child's friends, who might not be Hindu.

Sunny Days

Fri, Jul 12 2019, 12:51 pm

creditcards wrote:

Lol.
That's sounds much worse than Trany

Don’t think they were Jewish though, so they probably didn’t know the background story...

Iirc there’s an Asian name Bashem- we had a neighbor named jung young bashem

amother

Babypink

Fri, Jul 12 2019, 12:56 pm

There's nothing wrong with having a non-English name, but it is important to consider whether it sounds like something funny or offensive in English. In this case, you can still use the name, because it doesn't sound like it, but consider the spelling. It's not about knowing anything about transgender, it's about knowing Tranny is an offensive term and if someone from outside the community sees it in writing, it's going to raise eyebrows. Better to use a more phonetic spelling and avoid the issue.

I actually know someone who has a very lovely Hebrew name. Unfortunately, she once visited a country where in that language, the same word is a crude term for male anatomy. Now, she has a good sense of humor, and found the whole thing hilarious because she was only there for a few days, and it was funny to learn that her name apparently means something naughty in another language. But you bet that any Jews living in that country are not going to pick that name for their kids, even if they know full well what it means in Hebrew. Because in the dominant culture, that's asking for ridicule. And I do know of non Jews from other ethnicities who had to be careful about choosing names from their heritage because of what similar sounding words mean in English. They still were able to use names from the language, just not certain ones that sound really bad to English speakers. It's definitely an important consideration.