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Post  Sun, Aug 11 2019, 8:22 pm
PinkFridge wrote:


I'm listening to a shiur on YU Torah. It is not light, I.e. you can't have a coffee and cake while listening to it but it's very accessible. Warning about a very sad and not for kids episode in the first 8 minutes. Also, talks about mikvah.
https://www.yutorah.org/lectur.....al-heroes/



I'm listening to this now, thanks so much for the link.

FWIW:
Vikram Seth has a poem in his book "All You Who Sleep Tonight" about that heartbreaking shaylah called "Lithuania: Question and Answer"

https://books.google.com/books.....mp;f=false
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Post  Sun, Aug 11 2019, 8:31 pm
cbsp wrote:
That happened to me. I clicked on the "having trouble?" link and sent them a message. They emailed me a code and I was able to watch it...

I emailed them but didn't hear from them. Guess I'll try again.
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Post  Sun, Aug 11 2019, 8:36 pm
Amelia Bedelia wrote:
I emailed them but didn't hear from them. Guess I'll try again.


My husband just emailed the code to me (even though I used my email address to sign up, they emailed the code to the PayPal email address which is my husband's). Maybe something similar happened to you? (it also took a long time to get to his email)
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Post  Sun, Aug 11 2019, 11:48 pm
cbsp wrote:
My husband just emailed the code to me (even though I used my email address to sign up, they emailed the code to the PayPal email address which is my husband's). Maybe something similar happened to you? (it also took a long time to get to his email)

No. My sign up email is the same as my PayPal.
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Post  Mon, Aug 12 2019, 3:01 pm
cbsp wrote:
I'm listening to this now, thanks so much for the link.

FWIW:
Vikram Seth has a poem in his book "All You Who Sleep Tonight" about that heartbreaking shaylah called "Lithuania: Question and Answer"

https://books.google.com/books.....mp;f=false


Technically, I can't open the link. But I don't think I could have anyway.
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Post  Mon, Aug 12 2019, 3:33 pm
PinkFridge wrote:
Technically, I can't open the link. But I don't think I could have anyway.


Can you read these?
Page 19:


Page 20:
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Post  Mon, Aug 12 2019, 4:42 pm
cbsp wrote:
Can you read these?
Page 19:


Page 20:


No. But thanks.
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Post  Mon, Aug 12 2019, 5:40 pm
PinkFridge wrote:
No. But thanks.


Ok, I typed it up :


Lithuania: Question and Answer
Vikram Seth (from: All You who Sleep Tonight)

To Ephraim Oshry, rabbi, this is the case:
A woman of a good family in Kovno
Came to me weeping, comfortless. The Germans
Had raped her and had tattooed on her arm
The legend, 'Whøre for Hitler's troops.' She found
Her husband recently, and they intended
To build again a proper Jewish home.
(Their children had been killed.) But when he saw
The words he was appalled, and felt constrained
To ask, 'Is she permitted to me or not? Was there consent in this?' She came to me,
Eyes asking mercy. Tell me what to do.

-----

This took place in the city, not the field.
Nor did she cry out, therefore we may assume
That she consented. But Maimonides
Has said a sword above the head spells force.
Would it avail her to cry out? A sword
Was over all our heads. She could not wish
To lie with the abominable wolves.

This leads to the conclusion in this case
That was she forced. For in addition to
What we have used above, some others say
Even in the city with no witnesses
Such words are to be trusted.

______________________________Far be it
From anyone to cast aspersion on
These honourable women. He who hears
The pleadings of the poor will heal their sorrow.
I know that some men have divorced such wives
Alas for this happens in our times.

Preserve those words. They beat no tint of shame.
They will remind you that we yet shall see
The fall of the transgressors from whose face
Is blotted any human semblance - wolves
Who hasten to spill innocent blood and kill
The pious and the upright. Read those words
But think of Moses' words, the man of G-D:
'Sing aloud, O you nations, of His people;
For he avenges the blood of his servants and
Renders revenge upon His adversaries.'
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Post  Mon, Aug 12 2019, 7:56 pm
No way can I like that post. Thank you and I'm sorry you went to the trouble.
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