S/o- besides for vaccines what else could it be?

amother

Crimson

Fri, Aug 30 2019, 12:07 pm

These are all good answers so far. There are so many changes to our world in the last few decades that it is likely more than one culprit. (I am amother turquoise on the other thread, who commented on exactly this)

I heard about this term recently: "Virtual Autism." It refers to the effects of technology, and how they mimic autistic features. Now that's something else that has changed since the 70's!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p.....9631/

https://www.madinamerica.com/2.....oses/

singleagain

Fri, Aug 30 2019, 12:22 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

Everyone keep hiding your head in the sand like on ostrich on what is the main cause of autism.

There are 300+ NEW vaccines in the pipeline. And the government is going to force them on every adult and child.

When EVERYONE is brain-damaged, there will be nobody capable of protesting anything.

The bolded is false. Ostriches DON'T hide their head in the sand

amother

Crimson

Fri, Aug 30 2019, 12:24 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

And you are so caught up in your conspiracy theories, you won't for a second consider that the cause may be something else.

amother

Yellow

Fri, Aug 30 2019, 5:23 pm

shabbatiscoming wrote:

Even hundreds of years ago people had allergies, asthma, autism, adhd, learning disabilities mental and chrinic illnesses. Diagnostics were just not as advanced as they are today. And anyone who says these things didnt exist years and years ago is just fooling themselves.

This. The vast majority of the things were never named or diagnosed until quite recently. So, of course the number of children with, for example, autism has increased since the time when autism was not named or diagnosed!

Also, as mentioned above, tons of environmental changes and changes in our (now highly processed) food, etc., etc.

southernbubby

Sat, Aug 31 2019, 11:54 pm

amother [ Magenta ] wrote:

Conspiracy theory? The biggest conspiracy theory of 2019 is that unvaccinated kids are dangerous.

There is a large measles outbreak in New Zealand and one infant is in critical condition on life support. In order to contain the outbreak, the government is offering free vaccines to children, their parents, and basically anyone under 50. Controlling an outbreak like this requires that the vast majority of the population be immune to the virus. People who are not immune can catch and spread the virus which puts some people in danger.

#BestBubby

Sun, Sep 01 2019, 11:57 am

southernbubby wrote:

More than a century ago, autism was considered to be a form of schizophrenia and people who had it were put in insane asylums.

And did 1 out of 150 children have schizophrenia?*
NO! The rate was more like 1:10,000.

So something in the ENVIRONMENT is causing autism.

And Vaccines is the ONLY substance in the world that tens of thousands of parents said that after vaccination their child got very sick - and REGRESSED into autism.

Nobody ever said that about eating gmo, pesticides or exposure to wifi
(although these are unhealthy and may contribute to autism and other illnesses)
That is why Vaccines are most likely to be the MAIN cause - although NOT the ONLY cause.

*I use 1 out 150 because that is the rate of children with Severe Non-Verbal Autism.

#BestBubby

Sun, Sep 01 2019, 12:17 pm

amother [ Crimson ] wrote:

And you are so caught up in your conspiracy theories, you won't for a second consider that the cause may be something else.

Wrong! I did consider that it could be something else (gmo, pesticides, wifi).
After careful research, here is why I believe Vaccines are the MAIN cause (NOT only cause):

Because vaccines are the only substance that:

1. Thousands of parents state that their healthy, typically developing child developed high fever, seizures right after vaccination and then regressed into autism. No other substance (GMO, WIFI, etc) is reported with that effect.

2. Vaccines are the only product that lists autism (and many other illnesses) on the package insert. No other product has that warning!

3. Hundreds of studies by scientists linking vaccines to autism and other chronic conditions.
It's not only wakefield - that's a fake news lie. No other product has so many studies linking it autism.

4. About 60,000 reports to VAERS of adverse events after vaccination. And FDA says only 1-10% of adverse events are reported so the true amount can be 10x - 100x higher.
There is no "VAERS" for gmo, pesticides, wifi or other product people claim cause autism.

5. Vaccine Court paid $4 Billion for Vaccine Injuries including for autistic children. Parents can't get compensated if they say vaccines caused "autism" but they can get compensated if they say vaccines caused encephalopathy (brain swelling) (and brain swelling can cause autism).
There is no GMO Court, Pesticide Court, WIFI Court, etc. paying for injuries.

6. Many reports that autism is extremely rare among unvaccinated children.

7. Dr. Paul Thomas (Pediatrician) author of Vaccine Friendly Plan examined the data
of 3,345 patients in his practice.

Of 715 unvaccinated children only ONE case of autism 1:715
of children who were partially vaccinated per Vaccine Friendly Plan 1:440 had autism
of children who are vaccinated per CDC schedule 1:45 have autism

https://www.jeffereyjaxen.com/.....d-1-in-440

southernbubby

Sun, Sep 01 2019, 12:33 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

I have an 11 year old grandson with severe, regressive, non-verbal autism. Every time I have asked if they noticed anything different after he got his shots, his parents said "no". So we don't know what caused it. He was born slightly early and she may have been sick during the pregnancy. I was open to anything and even if vaccines were found to play a role, the question would be what is different about these kids because the average kid is vaccinated and lives a normal life.
I don't know how much we can estimate how often a disease occurred before records are kept. It more than likely was less than today but maybe more of them died during childhood.

#BestBubby

Sun, Sep 01 2019, 12:38 pm

amother [ Floralwhite ] wrote:

what's the conspiracy?

Because Vaccines are 95% effective (if you believe the government).

And all unvaccinated children are not carrying the measles.

So the likelihood of your child catching measles from an unvaccinated child is
about 1 in a million (hyperbole). The likelihood of your child getting injured from
measles is about 1 in a billion (hyperbole).

There have been over 1,000 REPORTED measles cases in US and many more unreported measles - and ZERO deaths from measles.
There were 432 reported deaths after vaccination in 2016

The likelihood of dying in a car crash is 1:8,000.
The likelihood of being seriously injured in a car accident is 1:71 !!!
Are you terrified to let your child ride in a car? NO!
Is the government outlawing cars? NO!

The likelihood of drowning is 1:8,0000. Are you terrified to let your child swim? NO!
Is the government outlawing swimming? NO!

The only reason people are afraid of unvaccinated children is because of GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA promoting irrational hysteria. If you let your child ride in a car, swim, ride a bike, etc. it is irrational to be afraid of unvaccinated children. Are you terrified your child will die from lightning? There are 51 lightning deaths a year. ZERO deaths from measles.

Fear of unvaccinated children IS a government conspiracy. Government Propaganda controls what you fear - that is how government controls people in order to pass Tyrannical laws.

amother

Floralwhite

Sun, Sep 01 2019, 12:48 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

Maybe I can help.

Is what you are saying that the government created a mass hysteria around vaccination to support their agenda to get more money from Big Pharma so they can monitor the Yeshiva schools system more efficiently?

#BestBubby

Sun, Sep 01 2019, 1:00 pm

amother [ Floralwhite ] wrote:

No. The reason Government and Big Pharma are getting rid of religious & personal exemptions is to make it impossible to make a Vax vs UnVax Study. In order to do
a Vax vs UnVax study you need Unvaxxed children. A Vax vs UnVax Study would prove
that Government and Big Pharma have caused millions of injuries to children (not just autism). Many people, not just anti-vaxxers, are demanding a Vax vs UnVax Study.

Solution? Get rid of the religious & personal exemptions and destroy the evidence, the
control group - unvaccinated children. Now a Vax vs UnVax study is impossible.

JoyInTheMorning

Sun, Sep 01 2019, 1:28 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

And did 1 out of 150 children have schizophrenia?*
NO! The rate was more like 1:10,000.

So something in the ENVIRONMENT is causing autism.

You are so wrong about this, as you are about most things.

From the Merck Manual, at https://www.merckmanuals.com/p.....enia:

Quote:

Worldwide, the prevalence of schizophrenia is about 1%.

From "Schizophrenia: Overview and Treatment" at https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p.....9061/

Quote:

The prevalence of schizophrenia is between 0.6% and 1.9% in the U.S. population.

Moreover, these statistics on the epidemiology of schizophrenia were the same in the 1950s, when only the smallpox vaccine was given.

Your credibility falls every time you post.