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Thu, Sep 19 2019, 1:03 pm
ShishKabob wrote: | I did meet you and you were SOO shocked that someone smiled at you before you smiled at them! lol |
That was YOU?! Awesome! Loved your outfit!
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Thu, Sep 19 2019, 1:29 pm
little neshamala wrote: | I have. I always smiled and acted friendly, while maintaining an obedient classroom. I had total control, but without resorting to drill sergeant intimidation.
As a student I always felt that the teachers who didnt smile much and stood at the door waiating for perfect attention before marching in, without a smile, and then issuing a crisp "shev na" or "open up to page 63 in your textbooks" while keeping their face totally impassive, keeping all the little kids under their reign.....I always always felt that these teachers were insecure and didnt know how to control a classroom otherwise. I remember being quite young and feeling scorn for one of my teachers for this reason precisely. |
Of course they do. And schools with parallel classes should always try to ensure that kids are matched to teachers of the right personality.
I have one who will challenge the authority of any teacher, and who needs a strict disciplinarian. And I have another who would break down inconsolably and not be able to go back into the classroom if disciplined (thankfully, its only happened once).
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Thu, Sep 19 2019, 3:51 pm
amother [ Chocolate ] wrote: | I feel like I should share this poem I saw for all teachers out there:
I woke myself up
Because we ain't got an alarm clock.
Dug in the dirty clothes basket,
Cause nobody washed my uniform.
Brushed my hair and teeth in the dark,
Cause the lights ain't on.
Even got my baby sister ready,
Cause my mama wasn't home.
Got us both to school on time,
To eat a good breakfast.
Then when I got to class the teacher punished me,
Cause I ain't got a pencil!!!!
Teachers, please have a heart when teaching! Remember, it's about much more than a pencil!! |
This. Some teachers punish for no reason, if the kid moves an inch out of line, if they don't sit up straight, it's like they are given zero understanding about basic psychology.
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Jewishfoodie


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Thu, Sep 19 2019, 4:02 pm
amother [ cornflower ] wrote: | After reading this I smiled at the lady standing in line paying for her shabbos shopping.
I live in London
What a dirty look I got in response
The next lady I smiled looked like she thought I was retarded
Jewish foodie can u come educate the Londoners!  |
With pleasure! In Manhattan, if you make eye contact with anyone accidentally, like literally anyone, you give a smile. Not a huge, "I've got Ecstasy in my pocket and I'm looking for an alligator to share it with" psychotic smile, just a small, 'I acknowledge we share the planet' smile. That's IF you make eye contact.
Why are some people so down on living that they look for a meaning in a smile? A smile is just that. A friendly look.. Don't give up! Keep smiling! More often than not, people will smile back. The more intrepid ones will be bold enough to say, "do I know you?" and to them I say, "you do now..", And guess what? They smile back! No harm, no foul..
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groisamomma


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Thu, Sep 19 2019, 4:11 pm
amother [ Teal ] wrote: | This. I'm not in the don't smile till Xmas camp but I'm definitely strict in the beginning and I relax as the year goes on once routines sure in place. I work hard to build relationships with my public school students and smiling isn't the only way to do that. In September I'm definitely watching kids do even basic things so I can check any misbehavior before it escalates and I can model appropriate behavior. I wouldn't judge a teacher based on one thing like the recess line. |
Public schools run very differently than frum schools in this aspect. We don't have the same need to be "in control" of a classroom, and the code of conduct is applied by all teachers equally whether they are smile-y or not, whether they are new to teaching or veteran teachers. Not smiling isn't a thing. Glaring silently at a kid like the frum teachers do won't make our students squirm like our own frum kids do. They just won't know what you want from them. Every teacher stands at the door and says things like, "thank you for coming today," and "I'm glad you came to school" because that's what teachers do there. The environments are totally different; it's comparing apples to oranges.
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Thu, Sep 19 2019, 5:39 pm
amother [ Chocolate ] wrote: | I feel like I should share this poem I saw for all teachers out there:
I woke myself up
Because we ain't got an alarm clock.
Dug in the dirty clothes basket,
Cause nobody washed my uniform.
Brushed my hair and teeth in the dark,
Cause the lights ain't on.
Even got my baby sister ready,
Cause my mama wasn't home.
Got us both to school on time,
To eat a good breakfast.
Then when I got to class the teacher punished me,
Cause I ain't got a pencil!!!!
Teachers, please have a heart when teaching! Remember, it's about much more than a pencil!! |
Wow. I relate to this poem so much. This was a typical day in my childhood.
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teachkids


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Thu, Sep 19 2019, 6:10 pm
While I'm waiting for my students to settle I stand still. Once they're sitting and prepared, I walk in, give a smile and start class. They know I'm waiting for them to be ready to start our fun for the day.
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Thu, Sep 19 2019, 6:38 pm
groisamomma wrote: | Public schools run very differently than frum schools in this aspect. We don't have the same need to be "in control" of a classroom, and the code of conduct is applied by all teachers equally whether they are smile-y or not, whether they are new to teaching or veteran teachers. Not smiling isn't a thing. Glaring silently at a kid like the frum teachers do won't make our students squirm like our own frum kids do. They just won't know what you want from them. Every teacher stands at the door and says things like, "thank you for coming today," and "I'm glad you came to school" because that's what teachers do there. The environments are totally different; it's comparing apples to oranges. |
I work with new teachers and I find this fascinating! I don't know who invented this frum "style" of classroom management . It really doesn't exist elsewhere.
Try as I might, I don't know how to undo it. Because our kids are conditioned to these methods, they see warmer, casual interactions as a sign of weakness. And once that happens, it becomes impossible to teach and then no one benefits.... it is baked into the culture of our schools and I think it is a tremendous disadvantage.
The most I have been able to do for now, was get teachers to relax in the middle of the year and establish relationships with consistency and fairness..... sigh.....
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