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Cheiny




 
 
 


Post  Fri, Sep 27 2019, 5:35 pm
roses wrote:
Let's hope they all bring the same superior wisdom and morality and ethics to the presidency as their father


And the same huge successes, which are what most Americans focus on.
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Cheiny




 
 
 


Post  Fri, Sep 27 2019, 5:37 pm
SixOfWands wrote:
You're mistaken.

Trump was accused of racism decades ago. In fact, he was accused of racist policies in his real estate business as early as 1973. In particular, it was alleged that employees were directed to tell African American lease applicants that there were no open apartments. Company policy, according to an employee quoted in court documents, was to rent only to “Jews and executives.” The matter was settled by a consent decree.

Later, it was claimed that “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” (per a former employee of Trump’s Castle, in Atlantic City, New Jersey).

There are lots of stories like that.

Not to mention the racist birther theory.


The highest CEO in the Trump organization was a black woman and she said there’s not a racist bone in his body. Why do you ignore “stories like that.”
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roses




 
 
 


Post  Fri, Sep 27 2019, 5:38 pm
Cheiny wrote:
Yes indeed. You’re ok with that type of language? No lady, especially a frum one, should speak that way. And yet their side at the same time claims that name calling is a bad thing.


This is really funny, because you have been a prolific name caller of pretty much all Democratic politicians.
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JoyInTheMorning




 
 
 


Post  Fri, Sep 27 2019, 5:38 pm
I grew up knowing that Trump was a playboy. It was well known. Then through someone I dated, who went to parties that Trump went to, I had one degree of separation from Trump. The stories I heard, long before Trump went into politics. Yuck. Lucky me, I’m also one degree of separation away from Jeffrey Epstein, through many people. I think the term that roses used is entirely justified for both of them. I feel like throwing up just thinking about those parties, to which I was never invited, due to my reputation as a nun.
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Cheiny




 
 
 


Post  Fri, Sep 27 2019, 5:39 pm
itsmeima wrote:
That's funny, I grew up knowing him as the crazy guy who wants to name the seasons after himself...


Crazy like a fox. He’s a multi millionaire and prez of the US...if only all the problem people had his brains.
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roses




 
 
 


Post  Fri, Sep 27 2019, 5:41 pm
Cheiny wrote:
And the same huge successes, which are what most Americans focus on.


Luckily for America, most of us are also deeply concerned with national security, rooting out abuse of presidential power and corruption, and keeping foreign governments out of our elections so we can have an actual democracy instead of the sham Trump democracy we've been living with these past years
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Yael




 
 
 


Post  Fri, Sep 27 2019, 5:45 pm
Stop with the personal attacks. Please.
I don’t have time right now erev shabbos to start editing and deleting. We are all grown women here, not children. I expect better from you.
Please keep all political discussions focused entirely on the topic at hand and avoid personal attacks or hurtful language.
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#BestBubby




 
 
 


Post  Sat, Sep 28 2019, 10:09 pm
roses wrote:
And I agree with this.
He was always seen as a kind of caricature.
His bid for presidency was viewed as a joke because of the reputation he has of being a very unstable, unintellectual, and empty man.

People thought it was a joke. Until it wasn't. And now it's a tragedy in its-hopefully- final act


You think it's a TRAGEDY that:

We have the BEST economy in 50 years?
Lowest unemployment for blacks, hispanics and women?
Higher Wages?
Lower Taxes?
Energy Independence?
Re-built Military?
Less illegals?
Recognized Jerusalem as capitol of Israel?

So brainwashed.

Personal attacks are unacceptable - Mod
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itsmeima




 
 
 


Post  Sat, Sep 28 2019, 10:35 pm
“If President Trump were to tweet that nine is a prime number, that Minneapolis is in Idaho, and that the sun revolves around the Earth — “Make Earth Great Again!” — would even five Republican senators publicly disagree with even one of the tweets?”
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1untamedgirl




 
 
 


Post  Sat, Sep 28 2019, 10:45 pm
JoyInTheMorning wrote:
I grew up knowing that Trump was a playboy. It was well known. Then through someone I dated, who went to parties that Trump went to, I had one degree of separation from Trump. The stories I heard, long before Trump went into politics. Yuck. Lucky me, I’m also one degree of separation away from Jeffrey Epstein, through many people. I think the term that roses used is entirely justified for both of them. I feel like throwing up just thinking about those parties, to which I was never invited, due to my reputation as a nun.

I would love to know more about how a young religious girl like yourself grew up knowing that Trump was a playboy. And dated someone who went to parties with Trump.
But if you didnt grow up religious and/or the boy you dated didnt grow up religious but changed and did Teshuva as an adult then dont you think that Trump can change as well?
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itsmeima




 
 
 


Post  Sat, Sep 28 2019, 10:51 pm
1untamedgirl wrote:
I would love to know more about how a young religious girl like yourself grew up knowing that Trump was a playboy. And dated someone who went to parties with Trump.
But if you didnt grow up religious and/or the boy you dated didnt grow up religious but changed and did Teshuva as an adult then dont you think that Trump can change as an adult as well?


Has he done step one - admitted his sins?
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#BestBubby




 
 
 


Post  Sat, Sep 28 2019, 10:53 pm
roses wrote:
Luckily for America, most of us are also deeply concerned with national security, rooting out abuse of presidential power and corruption, and keeping foreign governments out of our elections so we can have an actual democracy instead of the sham Trump democracy we've been living with these past years


You mean corrupt like DEMOCRAT Joe Biden, who threatened Ukraine President that if he didn't fire the prosecuter investigating Biden's crooked son, Biden will stop Ukrainian aid?

Do you admit DEMOCRAT Joe Biden is a corrupt, Roses???
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JoyInTheMorning




 
 
 


Post  Sat, Sep 28 2019, 11:02 pm
1untamedgirl wrote:
I would love to know more about how a young religious girl like yourself grew up knowing that Trump was a playboy. And dated someone who went to parties with Trump.
But if you didnt grow up religious and/or the boy you dated didnt grow up religious but changed and did Teshuva as an adult then dont you think that Trump can change as well?


I have always been frum. This guy I dated identified as frum, and was FFB like me. I don’t remember exactly — it’s a while ago — but I believe he told me the parties were work related. I am quite sure there are other frum people who went to such parties.

The fact that Trump was a playboy was no secret. I’m surprised none of you knew it. I’d go out to buy the New York Times, and at the newsstand next to the Times was the Post, and often there were headlines about Trump and his affairs. You had to be a hermit not to know.
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roses




 
 
 


Post  Sat, Sep 28 2019, 11:07 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
You mean corrupt like DEMOCRAT Joe Biden, who threatened Ukraine President that if he didn't fire the prosecuter investigating Biden's crooked son, Biden will stop Ukrainian aid?

Do you admit DEMOCRAT Joe Biden is a corrupt, Roses???


Well let's start with the documented fact that Trump admitted to unbelievably corrupt actions. That's an excellent starting point once we are in the admitting game

And as for Joe Biden, there is no evidence for any of your claims. In fact, the evidence disproves it. So your theory will have to go down the Trump conspiracy rabbit hole of which this whole thread is about.
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1untamedgirl




 
 
 


Post  Sat, Sep 28 2019, 11:19 pm
itsmeima wrote:
Has he done step one - admitted his sins?

He is a non-Jewish guy who was not a politician who went to parties that many other non-Jewish people (and apparently frum Jews) attended. I am not sure what his "sins" are but even if he "sinned" then I am not sure if we have "confessionals" in Orthodoxy so I am not sure who he would admit his "sins" to. Please elaborate.


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roses




 
 
 


Post  Sat, Sep 28 2019, 11:23 pm
1untamedgirl wrote:
He is a non-Jewish guy who was not a politician who went to parties like many other non-Jewish (and apparently frum Jews) people attended. I am not sure what his "sins" are but even if he "sinned" then I am not sure if we have "confessionals" in Orthodoxy so I am not sure who he would admit his "sins" to. Please elaborate.


Well let's start with the sin he actually admitted to, which is colluding with a foreign power to interfere with the elections.

There- I guess his teshuva is intact? Oh, but he has to actually have regret about it- which he does not

In any case, you're the one who's been suggesting that he's done teshuva, so it's kinda up to you to bring the evidence for it, if you want us to believe that he's a changes man. The rest of us will believe he is exactly the man he always was and the man he says he is
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1untamedgirl




 
 
 


Post  Sat, Sep 28 2019, 11:31 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
You mean corrupt like DEMOCRAT Joe Biden, who threatened Ukraine President that if he didn't fire the prosecuter investigating Biden's crooked son, Biden will stop Ukrainian aid?

Do you admit DEMOCRAT Joe Biden is a corrupt, Roses???

You have to understand that Biden is a professional con artist, oops, I mean politician (is there a difference between the two?) so there will never be any evidence of wrongdoing. Especially since he is a democrat and they tend to stand up for each other and support each other and cover up for each other.
Notice how democrats are insisting that there be "evidence" of wrongdoing when it comes to Biden. But when it comes to Trump, they will distort the truth to fit their narrative so even if there is no evidence of any wrongdoing they will still say that its "evidence" just to save face. They will even go as far as starting an impeachment investigation even before they have any "evidence" of wrongdoing.
I am not sure why anyone is even arguing at this point, we have the phone transcripts, there is no evidence that Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate Biden, Ukraine said they weren't pressured, etc. And I also read somewhere that Ukraine didn't know that Trump has withheld aid at the time of the infamous phone call so dems cant even use that as an excuse at this point.
Anyway, this conversation is really going in circles with everyone standing in their corner and just repeating their arguments but not getting anywhere. I have better things to do before Rosh Hashana so I will sign off. Hope you have a nice Yom Tov. Shana Tova and A Git Gebentched Yur. Zults huben oisgepoilt ales git.
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#BestBubby




 
 
 


Post  Sun, Sep 29 2019, 12:05 am
roses wrote:
Well let's start with the documented fact that Trump admitted to unbelievably corrupt actions. That's an excellent starting point once we are in the admitting game

And as for Joe Biden, there is no evidence for any of your claims. In fact, the evidence disproves it. So your theory will have to go down the Trump conspiracy rabbit hole of which this whole thread is about.


Trump did not admit to corrupt actions. Trump said his actions were legal. And there is VIDEO-TAPE of Joe Biden bragging how he threatened to with-hold American Aid to Ukraine unless the prosecuter investigating his son is fired: Here is the transcript: https://www.realclearpolitics.......html

JOE BIDEN, 23 JANUARY 2018: And so I got Ukraine. And I remember going over, convincing our team, our leaders to—convincing that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t.

So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him.

(Laughter.)

I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a b****. (Laughter.) He got fired.


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#BestBubby




 
 
 


Post  Sun, Sep 29 2019, 12:12 am
Hey, Trump-Hating-Democrats, here is PROOF that your Democrat Politicians are TYRANTS who violate the Constitution!

De-Blasio just made it ILLEGAL to call an illegal alien an illegal alien - you can get fined
$250,000 for doing so!

Not only is this violation of Free Speech, but Tyrant-Democrats are giving illegals MORE rights than citizens!

Read it here: https://www.americanthinker.co......html

So Democrats, are you going to finally admit that Democrats are Constitution-Violating Tyrants???


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#BestBubby




 
 
 


Post  Sun, Sep 29 2019, 12:18 am
roses wrote:
Well let's start with the documented fact that Trump admitted to unbelievably corrupt actions. That's an excellent starting point once we are in the admitting game

And as for Joe Biden, there is no evidence for any of your claims. In fact, the evidence disproves it. So your theory will have to go down the Trump conspiracy rabbit hole of which this whole thread is about.


1. Show me a LINK where Trump admitted to corruption.

2. There is VIDEO-TAPE of Biden bragging about threatening Ukraine with with-holding American Aid if Ukraine does not fire the prosecuter investigating Biden's son. THAT is evidence! See this link: https://www.realclearpolitics.......html
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