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amother
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Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 7:15 pm
I think it’s obvious to say that having a single male, sleep over for a shabbos could be a little different than a female.
Am I wrong?
When I think about if one of DHs friends wanted to stay for shabbos it wouldn’t occur to me as anything..

Would you ever have a single woman sleep by you for shabbos plus meals?
Not a close friend.. someone you don’t know that well. A mutual friend I guess.
I ended up not going with it because it didn’t work out and it just occurred to me today that actually... why would I ever have said yes!? Why did I plan to say yes but it didn’t work out?
That sleeping elsewhere maybe an older couple.. older family - we are the same age- and coming for meals is appropriate. But sleeping over?
What was I thinking in the first place that I’d consider yes.

Thoughts?
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singleagain




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 7:19 pm
I think it's only as big a deal as you make it
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amother
Lemon


 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 7:21 pm
What's the difference between having a single man or a single woman? Personally, I would feel more comfortable with a woman, actually.
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amother
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Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 7:21 pm
singleagain wrote:
I think it's only as big a deal as you make it


That could apply for anything in life...
Thanks.
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amother
Tangerine


 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 7:22 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote:
I think it’s obvious to say that having a single male, sleep over for a shabbos could be a little different than a female.
Am I wrong?
When I think about if one of DHs friends wanted to stay for shabbos it wouldn’t occur to me as anything..

Would you ever have a single woman sleep by you for shabbos plus meals?
Not a close friend.. someone you don’t know that well. A mutual friend I guess.
I ended up not going with it because it didn’t work out and it just occurred to me today they actually.. why would I ever have said yes???
That sleeping elsewhere maybe an older couple.. older family - we are the same age- and coming for meals is appropriate. But sleeping over?
What was I thinking in the first place that I’d consider yes.

Thoughts?


I guess I don't really see the difference, assuming that you have a room for them. In fact, if I had to choose, I'd allow a woman to stay with us before I'd choose a man. Lower crime/violence risk.
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amother
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Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 7:22 pm
amother [ Lemon ] wrote:
What's the difference between having a single man or a single woman? Personally, I would feel more comfortable with a woman, actually.


I guess bc men are less chatty
Or atleast not with me
The people I’m thinking of as DHs friends want to see DH..
Women tend to be a lot more chatty

Perhaps my problem is with this specific person who really chats up men
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amother
Black


 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 7:23 pm
I've had single friends sleep over. It's more comfortable/less awkward if you have a larger living space- we live in a home with 5 rooms.
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amother
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Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 7:24 pm
amother [ Tangerine ] wrote:
I guess I don't really see the difference, assuming that you have a room for them. In fact, if I had to choose, I'd allow a woman to stay with us before I'd choose a man. Lower crime/violence risk.


Yeah.. I agree with that.

Ive had my own single female friends stay over before- not a worry at all. Because they’re my friends and I’m close with them.
But someone I don’t know idk.. makes me uncomfortable
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amother
Lawngreen


 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 7:26 pm
There is no blanket answer. It depends on so many factors.
How comfortable you feel with her, how comfortable dh feels with her, her personality...
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amother
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Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 7:29 pm
amother [ Lawngreen ] wrote:
There is no blanket answer. It depends on so many factors.
How comfortable you feel with her, how comfortable dh feels with her, her personality...


Yeah I’m realizing that after a couple of responses.

I would not feel this way with a close friend of mine- it’s this woman specifically and the fact I don’t really know her.
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amother
Red


 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 7:43 pm
and this is what is so disturbing/wrong with frum society today.

your post was basically the equivalent of:
-all single women are aliens, the women even more so than men.
-ok maybe not all single women. maybe just the ones I know.
-actually there is one I know that isnt very alienish at all.
-actually the truth is anyone can be an alien depends on the individual.
-ok never mind not all single women are aliens.

however the instinctive reaction was- all single women are aliens.
its so sad. It would be so nice if we could be more inclusive and accepting.
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amother
Crimson


 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 8:01 pm
There are people who don’t host non family members. Especially if they have teenagers at home. Many won’t host for sleeping if the bedrooms are not private. I live in a small apt. I would not host singles for sleeping- not male nor female.
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Ema of 5




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 8:43 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote:
I think it’s obvious to say that having a single male, sleep over for a shabbos could be a little different than a female.
Am I wrong?
When I think about if one of DHs friends wanted to stay for shabbos it wouldn’t occur to me as anything..

Would you ever have a single woman sleep by you for shabbos plus meals?
Not a close friend.. someone you don’t know that well. A mutual friend I guess.
I ended up not going with it because it didn’t work out and it just occurred to me today that actually... why would I ever have said yes!? Why did I plan to say yes but it didn’t work out?
That sleeping elsewhere maybe an older couple.. older family - we are the same age- and coming for meals is appropriate. But sleeping over?
What was I thinking in the first place that I’d consider yes.

Thoughts?

We have had single males and single females sleep over/eat meals with us, and (shock and horror) we’ve even had single males and females sleep over at the same time!!
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amother
OP


 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 8:47 pm
amother [ Red ] wrote:
and this is what is so disturbing/wrong with frum society today.

your post was basically the equivalent of:
-all single women are aliens, the women even more so than men.
-ok maybe not all single women. maybe just the ones I know.
-actually there is one I know that isnt very alienish at all.
-actually the truth is anyone can be an alien depends on the individual.
-ok never mind not all single women are aliens.

however the instinctive reaction was- all single women are aliens.
its so sad. It would be so nice if we could be more inclusive and accepting.



Not at all actually.
I really couldn’t figure out within myself what bothered me about this.
So I came to a place where others could give their opinions, since I was not sure why I felt this way.
And in the past, I have had close friends who are single stay over. Nowhere did I imply all singles are aliens.

I’m sorry it offended you so much.
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amother
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Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 8:49 pm
Ema of 4 wrote:
We have had single males and single females sleep over/eat meals with us, and (shock and horror) we’ve even had single males and females sleep over at the same time!!


How did you plan that out to work? Curious..
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Ema of 5




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 9:34 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote:
How did you plan that out to work? Curious..

BH we have 3 guest rooms (two upstairs in a separate floor, and one downstairs on the main floor- our bedrooms are all on the middle floor) plus if need be our kids don’t mind giving up their rooms.
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nchr




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 9:36 pm
Yes, I have single men and single women sleep at my house for Shabbos all the time. Single females are easier for me to host. I have guest rooms in my basement, but often have guests, including singles, sleep in our regular rooms.
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Chayalle




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 9:40 pm
Everyone has to do what suits their comfort zone. For myself, I won't host single male guests on the same floor that my girls sleep. Females would be no problem. DH does not shmooze with them anyway.
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ectomorph




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 9:42 pm
Ema of 4 wrote:
We have had single males and single females sleep over/eat meals with us, and (shock and horror) we’ve even had single males and females sleep over at the same time!!
??? That's not normal
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Ema of 5




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Jan 06 2020, 10:04 pm
ectomorph wrote:
??? That's not normal

Maybe not in your world, but it works just fine for us.
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