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Post  Tue, Jan 14 2020, 12:11 pm
amother [ Babyblue ] wrote:
They just want an opportunity to blast the Va’ad. Take a look at their Facebook page. Openly calling “the hasidics “ cockroaches and that’s the best of it.


I will take your word for it because I view Facebook as treif.
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keym




 
 
 
 

Post  Tue, Jan 14 2020, 12:25 pm
Here's the thing that you cant get around.
Space is a huge issue.
Schools are growing as fast as they feel capable of.
New schools are popping up as quick as possible.
But the community is growing so fast that no one can keep up.
My daughter is in 8th grade in Bais Faiga.
There are 9 parallel classes with 27-30 per class. Primary has 13. There are currently 17 schools with 8th grades. There are 32 schools with primaries for next year.
That is insane growth.
It's very easy to armchair analyze- open new schools, open parallel classes, add more students.
Has anyone actually talked to principals and administrators about the process?
I have. The schools that grow too big too fast struggle with space issues, staff issues, money issues.
My boys are in such a school. I'm not naming it. But I sent them to a "small, starter, gamble school" that didn't even have a 3rd grade- 20 boys in the class.
My 7th grader has 32 now, and there are 4 or 5 parallel primaries with 28 in each class.
But they struggle with keeping up hiring good teachers, good principals, competent secretaries.
Growing too big too fast comes with its own set of struggles.

And I'm really happy to add more students to my kids classes so kids aren't hurt. But there reaches a point where it becomes too much.
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Chayalle




 
 
 
 

Post  Tue, Jan 14 2020, 12:32 pm
keym wrote:

My daughter is in 8th grade in Bais Faiga.
There are 9 parallel classes with 27-30 per class. Primary has 13.


I believe there are 10 primary classes, with 30 girls per class. Mrs. Epstein told me this herself, and she told me that she has a teacher in 3rd grade who says she is quitting before the primary gets to 3rd grade, because she does not want to have to handle that class size.

That's what happens when a school keeps being pushed to take one more student, one more student, etc...even the established schools can't deal with the growth being pushed on them.

I remember when my girls were in Primary, no class was larger than 25 students. It was Bais Faiga's pride. What are they going to do now, push them over 30?
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southernbubby




 
 
 
 

Post  Tue, Jan 14 2020, 12:41 pm
Someone put an op-ed on the Lakewood Scoop yesterday about stopping the growth of Lakewood. The writer said that although it is possible to turn single family homes into duplexes and multi family homes, the infrastructure can't handle more people and they should be actively discouraged from moving to Lakewood.
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amother




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Post  Tue, Jan 14 2020, 1:13 pm
Zehava wrote:
Chassidish school tuition is a joke. Most of their funding comes from the government and from the many wealthy donors they have due to the men actually working and making money.
Satmar even had enough money to raise millions for israeli institutions.


Chasidish tuition is much less than other places.
My husband helps run a chasidish school system in Brooklyn, boys (up to17), girls up to 18.
Tuition for elementary is $500 and high school $900. Yes, some parents pay less.
Government funding is a small percent of what keeps them afloat.

Parents and grandparents donating on a yartzeit, a birthday,day of simcha, for hatzlocha on a business deal etc. is a big percentage of funding.

Chasidim (of all income brackets)tend to donate to their kehillas mosdos in huge numbers compared to donating to something like MIKVA USA or a kiruv school in Russia (this in no way is a put down for those who donate to these great causes). (or a put down for the dynamics of non-chasidic Jewish communities.)
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amother




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Post  Tue, Jan 14 2020, 1:16 pm
southernbubby wrote:
Someone put an op-ed on the Lakewood Scoop yesterday about stopping the growth of Lakewood. The writer said that although it is possible to turn single family homes into duplexes and multi family homes, the infrastructure can't handle more people and they should be actively discouraged from moving to Lakewood.


Moving to a specific area may not necessarily have to do with factors claimed by people.
Real estate is all about location, location, location.
In people's mind Lakewood is lthe ocation.
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