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amother
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Post Fri, Jan 17 2020, 4:22 pm
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On Monday, Jan. 13, the New Jersey Senate failed to pass a bill to repeal the religious exemption for immunizations for schoolchildren. Advocates of informed consent had maintained a loud and vocal presence throughout the process — from passage through the Assembly to last week's "Hail Mary pass" amendment that restricted the mandate to public schools.

Hitting the pause button was the right thing to do. It affords an opportunity for lawmakers to be forthcoming about the specific vaccines and doses they are promoting, consider which are absolutely necessary, put down the “anti-vax” slingshot and work toward cultivating trust.

It’s time to back up words with facts. Sen. Loretta Weinberg, a sponsor of the bill, has said, "The science is settled.” Senate President Stephen Sweeney has vowed that “science" will reign. But neither has produced the data, if any, that informed their decision, much less studies with regard to the safety of an accelerated catch-up schedule.

If it's anything like the New York immunization schedule that affected 26,000 children last year, senators would be wise to take lessons.

On June 13, 2019, when New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed a bill that repealed the religious exemption, the law went into effect immediately. Youth with special needs who relied on education and support services 12 months per year instantly lost speech therapy, physical therapy, services for autism and dyslexia, and more.


Those attending summer school were given less than two weeks to get first doses for 12 diseases: polio, measles, mumps, diphtheria, rubella, varicella, hepatitis B, pertussis, tetanus, H. influenzae type b, meningococcal disease and pneumococcal disease. (The CDC advises waiting at least four weeks between live vaccines, I.e. MMR, varicella and polio.) Children attending school in the fall were looking at 20-plus vaccines in a single year.


The aggressive bill, passed without public hearing or warning, prompted some officials to voice concern. John V. Dolan, superintendent of schools in East Islip, wrote the judge considering an appeal: “As an educator for 34 years, I am deeply disturbed ... religious exemption has never caused one issue or one problem.”



Assemblywoman Judy Griffin of New York's 21st District wrote to the commissioner of the state Department of Health, concerned "about the accelerated schedule of immunizations in order for unvaccinated children to be eligible to attend school” and asked for “studies performed on the health and safety of children being vaccinated on an accelerated scheduled; and the relationship to possible intensified negative side effects.”

Many elders recall the scourge of polio, and relief when a vaccine was developed. But like any medical procedure, it has risks. People are often surprised to learn that vaccine makers have immunity from lawsuits in the event of an adverse effect, or are unaware of the existence of a government-run “vaccine court.”

In 1988, the government set up the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP), which allows individuals to file a petition for compensation in the event of adverse reactions. To date, over $4 billion in compensation for injuries has been paid.

Today’s CDC schedule calls for 54 vaccines by age 18 (or more, if adding flu shots or considering inoculations of DTaP and MMR as three separate vaccines each). If you can have a bad reaction to an aspirin, are parents wrong to consider risks and benefits as they would with any medical procedure? That doesn’t make them anti-vax; that makes them vaccine-sensible.

So is New Jersey truly in a public health emergency, as Sweeney states? If measles is the concern, why aren't lawmakers taking a targeted approach, as Germany did in November, mandating that children get vaccinated against measles specifically?

And if it's truly an emergency, why aren't the adults in the room required to get vaccines? Senators would win more converts if they stopped merely invoking “science” and took on the adult catch-up schedule themselves as a show of their conviction.

Currently, 45 states allow exemption based upon religious beliefs, and 15 states allow philosophical exemptions as well. Particularly with herd immunity maintained, there is no scientific reason to mandate injections of religiously objectionable substances onto persons of certain faiths.

Such ingredients might include animal-derived products, such as porcine gelatin and cow blood, forbidden to some Muslims and Orthodox Jews, and use of aborted human fetuses from the 1960s, cells of which are used in the growing of vaccines like varicella and rubella, morally untenable for some Christians.

Many people vaccinate their children but believe in informed consent — particularly for diseases that can’t be picked up by casual classroom contact. If senators think they've seen an uproar now, wait till people get wind of a new bill, A1603, which would force boys and girls to get Gardasil for the s-xually transmitted HPV to go to school.


https://www.northjersey.com/st.....3002/
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amother
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Post Sat, Jan 18 2020, 6:11 pm
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Those attending summer school were given less than two weeks to get first doses for 12 diseases: polio, measles, mumps, diphtheria, rubella, varicella, hepatitis B, pertussis, tetanus, H. influenzae type b, meningococcal disease and pneumococcal disease. (The CDC advises waiting at least four weeks between live vaccines, I.e. MMR, varicella and polio.) Children attending school in the fall were looking at 20-plus vaccines in a single year.


I'm not here to debate either way BUT please get your facts straight. Polio is not a live vaccine in the U.S. We only give the inactivated version. The only live vaccines are MMR and Varicella. Those can both be given on the same day (which they usually are), but if you choose to separate them, then you have to wait 30 days in between.

2 month olds typically get Dtap, Hep B, Polio (in one combo vaccine), HIB and Prevnar (pneumococcal) in one visit. Those are the standard 2 month vaccines. Giving those 3 injections to an older child in one visit is certainly not an issue of concern. (Children age out of HIB and Prevnar at the age of 5, so then those would no longer be relevant). It is certainly reasonable to get those in one day and return 2 weeks later for an MMR/varicella combo.

Meningococcal vaccine (which you mentioned) is not given until age 11 in the U.S., at which age HIB and Prevnar are no longer relevant.

So at least let's be honest with our reporting.
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amother
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Post Sat, Jan 18 2020, 10:39 pm
I copy pasted from the link posted. Your comments are valid corrections.
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amother
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Post Fri, Feb 21 2020, 11:50 am
This is from CT who has a pending bill to remove the RE:
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com.....6193/

NY'ers didn't get this opportunity for a public hearing at all. Sad



Here is one person's powerful testimony:
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