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itsmeima




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 9:17 pm
Fox wrote:
Do you really want to use Roger Stone's show trial as an example? Think carefully.


Nah! We can talk about...

- Michael Flynn, Trump’s national security adviser, on one count of lying to the FBI

- Rick Gates, Trump’s former deputy campaign manager and Manafort protégé, on one count of conspiracy against the United States and one count of making false statements to FBI agents

- George Papadopoulos, a low-level Trump foreign policy adviser, for making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Russians during the campaign

- Michael Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer and fixer, who pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about a possible Trump Organization real estate project in Moscow that was under consideration during the 2016 presidential campaign.

- Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, who pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy against the US and one count of conspiracy to obstruct justice.
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Cheiny




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 9:21 pm
Jeanette wrote:
I know people who went to a Trump rally. A nice Frum couple in their 70s. Trump supporters! But they came away saying that it was scary. The chanting, the screaming, the "lock her up!", encouraging the crowd to menace the press. The bizarre disjointed rantings. They did not come out feeling uplifted, energized or excited about this country. They came out sickened and disgusted.

Yes, I know, no Democrat who's running is a rockstar. I thought conservatives just wanted the most capable, qualified person for the job. I thought celebrity worship was a liberal thing. Conservatives worship G-d. I thought celebrities should keep their mouths shut and stay out of politics.


Once again, (and again, and again, and again...) what is it about the most successful president in US history that you refuse to understand and willingly ignore? Do we have to list all his record breaking accomplishments again? Why is it so hard for you to accept that people care about how this country is flourishing under his leadership as it never has before? Do you really not understand that people want our country to continue on the wildly positive path it’s on? That they don’t want a liberal nut case to come in and tank our economy with $70 trillion fantasy plans for handing out free everything, including to illegal aliens? To raise taxes? To kill our stock market which is now at record highs? That they don’t want open borders and criminals pouring in? That they don’t want a party that harbors anti semites to take control? To cut aid to Israel? To force her to hand over more land to the terrorist PA? To hand Iran more money and a free hand to secretly get nukes?

Do you really not get it? All because he doesn’t have high enough morals? That phony excuse is getting old. It’s all about his record success and dems’ record failures. Period.
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malki2




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 9:35 pm
Jeanette wrote:
Trump supporters are 40% of the country.

He is opposed by 60% of the country.

We are the ones who love America, love the Constitution, love our freedoms, love truth and justice and will not stop fighting until this grave threat to our great union comes to an end.


We shall see in November, my dear. But just make sure that you remember the numbers you just posted. If not, I’ll remind you. 😉
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#BestBubby




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 9:50 pm
Jeanette wrote:
Trump supporters are 40% of the country.

Where do they get off saying THEY are the real Americans and the rest of us are the enemy? What chutzpah.

He is opposed by 60% of the country.

We are the ones who love America, love the Constitution, love our freedoms, love truth and justice and will not stop fighting until this grave threat to our great union comes to an end.


Democrat Leaders DO hate the country. They say America is Evil, Racist, Mean, etc.

Obama said he wanted to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM America. If you LOVE something, you don't want to transform it!

Democrats HATE the Constitution. Democrat Judges constantly VIOLATE the Constitution by MAKING UP LAWS which is illegal and unconstitutional.

Democrats say the Constitution is Racist, Mysogynist, etc.

Democrats want to abolish free speech, freedom of religion, gun rights - just like all Socialists Dictators. Democrats say the voters can't decide who is president. If Democrats lose an election they try to ILLEGALLY overturn the elected president with LIES to FISA Court, and Slander that always ends up exposed as a hoax.

Democrats want to abolish the electoral college. And the Senate.

Democrats are a threat to our Democracy/Republic. Democrats want to establish a
SOCIALIST DICTATORSHIP!
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Cheiny




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 9:56 pm
malki2 wrote:
We shall see in November, my dear. But just make sure that you remember the numbers you just posted. If not, I’ll remind you. 😉


I’ll make a prediction too. The liberals will be nowhere to be found here after the election results come in! Guaranteed.
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malki2




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 10:08 pm
sarahleah88 wrote:
When will all of you realize that Donald Trump is a sick, sick man? When will you recognize who he really is? When will you acknowledge that there may possibly be “plants” on this very forum who are promoting another four years of this divisive, hateful and, frankly mentally ill person as president? Has nothing to do with party (Republican or Democrat) ......has to do with recognizing that Donald Trump is mentally unfit for office and a danger to our country and our national and international relationships!


I am curious to know what you have done personally to be makir tov to President Trump for setting free your fellow Jew, Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin?
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Cheiny




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 10:45 pm
Jeanette wrote:
Trump supporters are 40% of the country.

Where do they get off saying THEY are the real Americans and the rest of us are the enemy? What chutzpah.

He is opposed by 60% of the country.

We are the ones who love America, love the Constitution, love our freedoms, love truth and justice and will not stop fighting until this grave threat to our great union comes to an end.


Your source?

Americans say they’re better off under Trump, new poll shows
A solid majority of Americans say they are better off than they were three years ago, a factor that could help boost President Trump’s re-election bid, a new Gallup poll released Wednesday reveals.

The 61 percent “better off” rating is the highest percentage recorded during the re-election year of any incumbent president since Gallup first asked the question in its surveys in 1992.

Meanwhile, 52 percent of respondents said it is easier for them to “go and buy things in the stores” than it was three years ago — also higher than in 1992, 1996 and 2004 election cycles, when the figures were closer to 40 percent, the poll said.

In 1992, 1996 and 2004 election cycles, half of Americans said they were better off. In 1992, George H.W. Bush lost his re-election bid to challenger Bill Clinton. Clinton then won re-election in 1996 and George W. Bush won re-election in 2004. In three separate measures during the 2012 election cycle, an average of 45 percent said they were better off. But Barack Obama still won re-election, defeating Mitt Romney.

Sixty-two percent give Trump a great deal or fair amount of credit for improvement in the state of the economy in the prior three years — more than the 51 percent given to his predecessor, former President Barack Obama. [NYP]
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Sebastian




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 10:58 pm
Jeanette I'm not a trump supporter. I didn't vote for him in 2016. I hate his tweets. I hate his chaotic administration.

I still plan to vote for him in November. How many Americans are like me? Especially since imo the democratic field is so weak
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dancingqueen




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 11:27 pm
Fox wrote:
I am incredulous that anyone thinks this rift developed in 2015. Trump is a symptom, not a cause, and the inability or refusal of the left to see that has the potential to move us from a cold civil war to a hot one.


Do you think he’s making it better or worse?
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Fox




 
 
 
 

Post  Thu, Feb 13 2020, 11:45 pm
dancingqueen wrote:
Do you think he’s making it better or worse?

Depends on which side you're on.

I can tell you that among serious culture-warrior types, he is not necessarily beloved at the personal or even policy level, but he is admired as a symbol of pushback who has been fearless in standing up to the Marxist-inspired vision promoted in education, entertainment, and by the chattering classes.

Culture warriors are furious at him, however, because he has been unsuccessful in forcing social media companies to decide whether to be publishers or town squares. They will vote for him because the Democratic candidates are generally anti-free speech, but the grumbling has already begun.
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tp3




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Feb 14 2020, 12:03 am
Sebastian wrote:
Jeanette I'm not a trump supporter. I didn't vote for him in 2016. I hate his tweets. I hate his chaotic administration.

I still plan to vote for him in November. How many Americans are like me? Especially since imo the democratic field is so weak

Ditto

Democrats scare the $%^& out of me. They have wonderful ideals. Practically applied = national suicide. Especially the new socialist leaning candidates and antisemites. I'd vote for anyone but them. Cookie Monster, Mordechai ben David, my teenager. Anyone but a Democrat. Even Trump.
I'm all for Trump2020. And this time I'll vote.
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Jeanette




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Feb 14 2020, 12:18 am
I don't know. A lot of posters here say they don't know anyone who doesn't support Trump, or if they do know it's a tiny minority.

Maybe the people on imamother aren't necessarily representative of the rest of the country?
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malki2




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Feb 14 2020, 5:23 am
Jeanette wrote:
I don't know. A lot of posters here say they don't know anyone who doesn't support Trump, or if they do know it's a tiny minority.

Maybe the people on imamother aren't necessarily representative of the rest of the country?


I don’t know. Over 75 percent of Lakewood Township voted for Trump meaning 95 percent of the Jewish population. Ditto for similar communities. So in you live in these communities, you would have a hard time finding a Hillary voter. And I don’t know how many people in Lakewood are represented on Imamother. So, no.
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Jeanette




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Feb 14 2020, 7:30 am
What's weird to me is that Trump is such an obvious scammer and con artist over so many years, and it's so obvious when he opens his mouth that he doesn't know what he's talking about. And people are falling all over themselves for this??

It's not like I'm this lifelong Democrat that's infuriated that a conservative won. I didn't start thinking badly of him when he decided to run for president. It's how I've always perceived him. How was an obvious fraudster was able to pull the wool over so many eyes? Was Hashem helping him when he defrauded people with Trump U? When he stole from his own charity?

And people say, "but look at the policies! Look at the accomplishments! You must be blind by hate if you can't see them!"

So I look and I see... nothing. All the so-called accomplishments are wildly exaggerated. It's like reading testimonials for Trump University or beet juice supplements.
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pause




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Feb 14 2020, 8:54 am
Sebastian wrote:
Jeanette I'm not a trump supporter. I didn't vote for him in 2016. I hate his tweets. I hate his chaotic administration.

I still plan to vote for him in November. How many Americans are like me? Especially since imo the democratic field is so weak

I'm this way too. Voted a write-in candidate in 2016. I hate his personality but currently he's the best option that's up for election.
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small bean




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Feb 14 2020, 9:38 am
Is cancel culture, which is not political, is that happening from people in the right or peoplw on the left for the most part?

Leave your echo chamber and see where people feel more respected for talking straight, person to person. That is the point of the article.

She is explaining the walkaway movement. It is agrowing movenent of people who are tired of being in this negative echo chamber.

The article is not pro trump. It is about people who are tires of the left telling them how they must think and feel. Of the left telling them a narrative as fact when there is a lot they are leaving out.

I think it is telling that many here could not read the article without understanding the point. The article is not about trump. The article is about the lack of tolerance on the left.

If you can't hear what is being said without thinking trump, then you are part of the problem that created trump and will continue to keep the problem going. The reason even people who don't like trump, will either not vote or vote for trump is because of this attitude.
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flowerpower




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Feb 14 2020, 9:41 am
https://t.co/ZfIHg1d5SH
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b.chadash




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Feb 14 2020, 10:50 am
Reading through this is kind of scary. It's like two people going through a divorce with both sides hating the other with such venom. They keep harping on every bad thing -real or imagined -that their spouse has ever done, without being able to recignize anything positive their spouse has done over the years
They dont realize that the real victims are kids!
The fact is that both sides have enough dirt of their own.
Republicans and democrats, both sides have major flaws. Trump has flaws. So does any person the democrats will put up there. You gotta pick one side. That's how the game is played. Politics is ugly, pick the less ugly candidate.
Just because I'm picking one side doesn't mean I need to defend everything about it, nor that you need to bash me with everything that anyone on "my side" has ever done wrong. Sheesh.
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small bean




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Feb 14 2020, 10:52 am
I think that some people can't attribute anything good coming from someone they despise. So while they may be happy the rubashkin was pardoned, they can't say that it is something good trump has done.

There are many people who can't say trump has done some good stuff and some bad stuff. And there are some people who can not give any credit to anything obama did. Some people are so partisan, they really can't see good in somone they disagree with fundamentally.

I think it is a fear people have to let go and be honest about people who they have strong disagreements with. This is not really politics. Look at people's personal lives as well and you will see the same thing. You decide you disgree with this fraction of judisiam or this is rabbi, and no matter what everything they do you can't attribute any goodness to it. Or a family memeber, a coworker etc.
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