Until what time at night is it normal to have a loud party

amother

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 12:16 am

My neighbor in building is holding a raucous party on their back porch which is right above my back window. Until what time at night should I be patient before I complain. Understanding I have to be somewhat patient cause purim. But it is past midnight and I'm tired and they don't have a track record of mentshlichkeit.

amother

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 1:46 am

So what can I do? I already called. No answer. Went over. The guests said they'll turn it down. No change. They're still screaming on the back porch. Music smoking probably vomiting into my backyard. What can I do short of calling police? It's 1:45 am and I'm tired and my kids can't sleep.

mamma llama

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 1:48 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

I don't think there are many other options since they're probably too drunk to think rationally... Silly

amother

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 1:54 am

The men are probably all drunk but there is probably women too. When I went over two hours ago there were a bunch of kids and women. Can't they think straight? I don't get these people.

amother

Pearl

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 2:30 am

I would have called police, but that's just me.

I dont know why some people think they can disturb the peace just because it's Purim. In Bnei Brak, 38 people were arrested for disturbing the peace..Chillul Hashem.

amother

Sapphire

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 2:35 am

My neighbors did that to us after the seudah too. My 10mo DC was ill with fever and DH asked them to turn down the blaring music after 9pm - not turn OFF, but turn DOWN - but nope! Not even for an ill baby... The best was that the words 'veahavta leraiacha kamocha' were playing over and over again Punch

tweety1

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 6:52 am

Don't get me started on this one. My neighbor had blasting blasting music past 3am. If not my dh I would've long called the police. My dh didn't let me saying it's Purim.

amother

Bisque

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 9:48 am

amother [ Sapphire ] wrote:

Sorry, you can't ask people to turn down the music on PURIM at 9:00! Purim is once a year, they're allowed to party. It's not their problem your baby is ill. 9PM isn't midnight.
We had the same last night, my house was shaking the party was going on way past midnight. But even if we were very annoyed, I said I'm not saying a thing, Purim is once a year, I don't want to be the bad neighbor.

LittleMissMama

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 9:48 am

Tolerance? Don't be stupid. No one needs to be tolerant at that hour.

Next time call the police, even if your husband disagrees. May this be the biggest thing you disagree on.

The police keeps the caller anonymous, btw, so don't worry about it.

Chayalle

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 10:31 am

I have a neighbor who is a huge and well-known Baal Tzedaka. His Purim night goes till well past mid-night, especially this year due to the clock change and things running later.

Every year, some of his "collectors" decide they may as well try their luck at the small house next door to the mc-mansion....this year, some of them banged loudly on our front door at 12:30 am. ("If we bang louder, they'll open up!")

(DH wanted to open the door, but I prevailed. I did not need them singing loudly in my foyer, which is just below my sleeping DD's room. I told them thru the door that I was not opening up and they need to head home.)

It's once a year, and I'm glad there are people like my neighbor in the world. He's a good person and so is his wife, and they are really, really nice to us. I do my best to just laugh at the situation, and enjoy the spectacle on their front lawn from my window - yearly Purim night entertainment.

Unless there's a regular and continuous issue, I can't fathom calling the police on a neighbor for a once-a-year thing.

Chayalle

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 10:37 am

amother [ Sapphire ] wrote:

I remember the year my DD was less than a week old on July 4th, and the township fireworks took place across the street from my home. My entire house shook, as did my tiny newborn. I held her till it was over.

You think the township stopped their annual parade for me?

Life happens.

FranticFrummie

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 10:45 am

I know someone who had the police called on them on Seder night, because they were singing at midnight! Chiloni neighbors upstairs didn't care what night of the year it was, and they were being jerks about it.

I am very sorry with everyone with kids who suffer from the noise (or people who are ill or have migraines.) It's difficult, but try to think of it as "B'H, the Yidden have what to celebrate!"

But yeah, the smoking and throwing up is disgusting. I'm totally with you on that not being acceptable any time of the year. I love Simchas Torah too, but when people overdo it I think it loses it's kedusha.

naturalmom5

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 11:08 am

FranticFrummie wrote:

If they were singing so loud that the upstairs heard it and were further turned off to Yiddishkeit, imvho the Seder family were in the wrong...

amother

Pearl

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 11:18 am

Sorry. Purim is once a year but that is no excuse to blare music at 3a.m.

During the year in Israel you are allowed to make noise till 11 pm. I would give them till midnight, since it's purim, then I would call the police.

You can party without blaring music to the whole neighbourhood, especially after midnight. At that point it's plain egotism.

SixOfWands

Wed, Mar 11 2020, 11:20 am

FranticFrummie wrote:

There's no need to sing so loud at midnight that the neighbors not only can hear, but are annoyed. You can party at reasonable decibel levels, you know.

OP, IMNSHO, you should have politely asked them to dial it down after 11 pm. If they didn't, you should have told them that if they don't moderate the noise, you're going to call the police. Then do it.

Of course, you should also close all your windows and run fans to reduce the levels.