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amother




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Post  Thu, May 21 2020, 11:46 pm
Did anyone see a local optometrist who said your child would not benefit from prisim for their reading issues, but you decided to see Dr Alexander in London anyway and he was the right shliach?
I took my son to Dr Rubin in Monsey and he said my sons eyes are fine. However, he's barely reading and writing at age 13! No amount of therapy has helped so far. We're at our wits end! Is it still worth a trip to London?
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amother




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Post  Thu, May 21 2020, 11:47 pm
Why don't you go for a second and third opinion before going all the way to London? Maybe call echo for a referral for a good pediatric eye doctor.
Dr. Wang in Manhattan is a great doctor. I'm sure there are other good eye doctors.
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amother




Mustard
 

Post  Thu, May 21 2020, 11:49 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote:
Did anyone see a local optometrist who said your child would not benefit from prisim for their reading issues, but you decided to see Dr Alexander in London anyway and he was the right shliach?
I took my son to Dr Rubin in Monsey and he says my sons eyes are fine. However, he's barely reading and writing at age 13! No amount of therapy has helped so far. We're at our wits end! Is it still worth a trip to London?


What do you mean by therapy?

I don't think kids with learning disabilities need therapy, unless you mean it in some other sense.

Had he been tested for any learning disabilities such as dyslexia?

Had an orton Gillingham specialist worked with him?
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amother




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Post  Thu, May 21 2020, 11:53 pm
amother [ Mustard ] wrote:
What do you mean by therapy?

I don't think kids with learning disabilities need therapy, unless you mean it in some other sense.

Had he been tested for any learning disabilities such as dyslexia?

Had an orton Gillingham specialist worked with him?


Therapy as in vision therapy. He's also been to numerous reading specialists.

He does not have dyslexia.

What's Orton Gilllingham about? How do I get in touch with one?
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amother




Turquoise
 

Post  Thu, May 21 2020, 11:53 pm
amother [ Mustard ] wrote:
What do you mean by therapy?

I don't think kids with learning disabilities need therapy, unless you mean it in some other sense.

Had he been tested for any learning disabilities such as dyslexia?

Had an orton Gillingham specialist worked with him?


I'm wondering the same. Why are you assuming the cause is visual?
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amother




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Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 12:38 am
amother [ Turquoise ] wrote:
I'm wondering the same. Why are you assuming the cause is visual?


Dr Alexander isn't just for visual. Prism is for the brain. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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amother




Turquoise
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 12:43 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
Dr Alexander isn't just for visual. Prism is for the brain. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


Well, technically all senses end in the brain. But prism glasses are used when there is a visual problem that affects function. If there is no visual problem, the prism glasses will not do anything.
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amother




Turquoise
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 12:46 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
Therapy as in vision therapy. He's also been to numerous reading specialists.

He does not have dyslexia.

What's Orton Gilllingham about? How do I get in touch with one?


What were the vision therapists working to correct?
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amother




Olive
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 12:48 am
amother [ Black ] wrote:
Why don't you go for a second and third opinion before going all the way to London? Maybe call echo for a referral for a good pediatric eye doctor.
Dr. Wang in Manhattan is a great doctor. I'm sure there are other good eye doctors.

Interesting. I've been to Dr. Wang and DD's vision issues are unresolved so refuah helpline is sending me to Dr. Rubin...
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Surrendered




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 12:57 am
I also saw Dr. Rubin for my son. He also said no prism. We made an appointment to see Dr
Alexander anyways.
I believe It's still worth going down to London. It's worth a try.
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CiCi




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 12:58 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
Dr Alexander isn't just for visual. Prism is for the brain. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


The purpose of Prism glasses is to relax the eye muscles if they are strained.
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amother




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Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 1:01 am
Surrendered wrote:
I also saw Dr. Rubin for my son. He also said no prism. We made an appointment to see Dr
Alexander anyways.
I believe It's still worth going down to London. It's worth a try.


So your saying that Dr alexander did help your son?
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pecan




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 1:06 am
Honestly, as a special education provider and certified Wilson reading specialist, I would not jump to the conclusion that it is a visual issue. Very often, it is an auditory processing issue that makes it difficult for a child to read. Reading specialists must show you their credentials and be certified! There are too many bogus specialists around.
If I were you, I would start with a full neuropsych evaluation.
Is reading the only issue? Does he have difficulty articulating words or sentences, following directions or anything else you can think of?
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amother




Wine
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 1:10 am
Did u try working with specialists that work with dr Alexander? Like Mrs gradman In monsey- she might also have other ideas.

Honestly from the kids I know I believe that the strain can be there even if it’s not the primary issue and it’s worth exploring. I wouldn’t run around to more docs in the US because these visits are so expensive I’d rather go to the top doctor and know I did max hishtadlus.
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amother




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Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 1:13 am
amother [ Wine ] wrote:
Did u try working with specialists that work with dr Alexander? Like Mrs gradman In monsey- she might also have other ideas.

Honestly from the kids I know I believe that the strain can be there even if it’s not the primary issue and it’s worth exploring. I wouldn’t run around to more docs in the US because these visits are so expensive I’d rather go to the top doctor and know I did max hishtadlus.


Im actually looking for her contact info. Do you have her info?
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amother




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Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 1:15 am
pecan wrote:
Honestly, as a special education provider and certified Wilson reading specialist, I would not jump to the conclusion that it is a visual issue. Very often, it is an auditory processing issue that makes it difficult for a child to read. Reading specialists must show you their credentials and be certified! There are too many bogus specialists around.
If I were you, I would start with a full neuropsych evaluation.
Is reading the only issue? Does he have difficulty articulating words or sentences, following directions or anything else you can think of?


He has difficulty remembering phone numbers
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amother




Wine
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 1:17 am
I’m not sure how to post it here, not sure she’ll appreciate it.
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amother




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Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 1:22 am
amother [ Wine ] wrote:
I’m not sure how to post it here, not sure she’ll appreciate it.


How about you post it and delete your post after 2 mins?
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amother




Mustard
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 1:33 am
pecan wrote:
Honestly, as a special education provider and certified Wilson reading specialist, I would not jump to the conclusion that it is a visual issue. Very often, it is an auditory processing issue that makes it difficult for a child to read. Reading specialists must show you their credentials and be certified! There are too many bogus specialists around.
If I were you, I would start with a full neuropsych evaluation.
Is reading the only issue? Does he have difficulty articulating words or sentences, following directions or anything else you can think of?


I am a teacher, and I agree.
full neuropsychological eval. should be the first step.
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amother




Ivory
 

Post  Fri, May 22 2020, 2:09 am
SUNY College of Optometry in Manhattan.
They were phenomenal, discovered the issue everyone else told us we were imagining.
Hours long evaluation, covered by insurance.
They do vision therapy, will use/ give you prism glasses on an as needed basis.
Saved my child.
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