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amother

Sat, May 30 2020, 8:44 pm

How many people are considering not sending anyway out of concern that not enough has changed in the world and it is too risky??

amother

Babyblue

Sat, May 30 2020, 8:46 pm

I would imagine it depends on how old the parents are and if they have antibodies or not.

amother

Amethyst

Sat, May 30 2020, 8:51 pm

Is nobody risk concerned about their child developing MIS-C?

amother

Navy

Sat, May 30 2020, 8:52 pm

amother [ Amethyst ] wrote:

Is nobody risk concerned about their child developing MIS-C?

What is that?

Ahuva's Mommy

Sat, May 30 2020, 8:55 pm

amother [ Navy ] wrote:

What is that?

The Kawasaki like disease that some kids are coming down with.

amother

Amethyst

Sat, May 30 2020, 8:55 pm

https://www.health.harvard.edu.....-kids

amother

Navy

Sat, May 30 2020, 8:57 pm

Ahuva's Mommy wrote:

The Kawasaki like disease that some kids are coming down with.

Oh. But how many kids are still totally quarantined? Most kids are out playing with neighbors. Men are going to shul. Many communities have yeshiva and boys classes and there doesn't seem to be a rise in Kawasaki cases.

amother

Aubergine

Sat, May 30 2020, 8:58 pm

Not as many as usual will send with the viruses. We can’t anyway afford it. SYEP was cancelled.

amother

Amethyst

Sat, May 30 2020, 9:03 pm

The everyone is doing it excuse doesn't hold water with me.
My family is still home.

groisamomma

Sat, May 30 2020, 9:06 pm

amother [ Amethyst ] wrote:

The everyone is doing it excuse doesn't hold water with me.
My family is still home.

It does for me. If they open camps we're all going.

Goldie613

Sat, May 30 2020, 9:12 pm

Paying staff may be an issue too, as in NY youthcorp was cancelled.

amother

Cyan

Sat, May 30 2020, 9:15 pm

It depends which kid - my teens I'd let work in camp as long as I felt the camp was being careful and following whatever the health guidelines are at that time.

On the other hand, there's no way my special needs child is going back to his day hab program right now if they reopen. Given his health issues I'm not comfortable taking a chance.

amother

Crimson

Sat, May 30 2020, 9:19 pm

I would send, still hoping to send my dd. If the camp is okay with the risk level (they have Rabbonim and doctors they consult with), and camp is overnight for 4 weeks, that's long enough to rule out any transmission among campers. I would consider that a reasonable amount of risk.

I hear the "even one life" argument, but when risk levels are low we don't actually operate according to that principle. We don't ban peanut butter universally because some are allergic; we do only in a school with a child with a known allergy. We don't stay home with any cold because we might infect someone immunocompromised or because that "cold" could be an illness dangerous to a pregnant woman or newborn, we take some precautions but not all.

I am not sure I'd send to day camps where spread could be unchecked, or if camp was planning off-site trips in the first half of camp, but the risk level in an overnight camp, assuming the camp feels confident themselves, feels like a low enough level risk for me to feel confident in doing it.

I'd probably drive DD to camp myself instead of joining other parents and potential crowds at the bus, and no visiting day, but that's enough hishtadlus for me.

Stars

Sat, May 30 2020, 9:59 pm

We should ban pools. They kill more people a year than what covid19 is doing right now.

I am serious.

soap suds

Sat, May 30 2020, 10:06 pm

I'd absolutely send.

amother

Linen

Sun, May 31 2020, 4:11 am

Stars wrote:

We should ban pools. They kill more people a year than what covid19 is doing right now.

I am serious.

I can see that you and others drink the kool-aid on Fox News.

The facts on the ground though: https://www.cdc.gov/homeandrec......html

amother

Linen

Sun, May 31 2020, 4:13 am

Saying that though, I absolutely think that camps should ban all water and other related activities during the three weeks, and certainly during the 9 days. Far too many tragedies in recent years.

shabbatiscoming

Sun, May 31 2020, 4:18 am

Stars wrote:

We should ban pools. They kill more people a year than what covid19 is doing right now.

I am serious.

No, that is just not true. Do you know how many deaths there are from covid???

amother

Linen

Sun, May 31 2020, 4:22 am

shabbatiscoming wrote:

No, that is just not true. Do you know how many deaths there are from covid???

She must have read it on Fox News. Someone there quoted that there's over 300K deaths yearly in US from swimming pools in order to downplay the threat of Covid-19. Reality is there's only several thousand.

amother

Crimson

Sun, May 31 2020, 4:27 am

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fasta.....h.htm

Leading Causes of Death in US Annually

• Heart disease: 647,457
• Cancer: 599,108
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
• Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
• Diabetes: 83,564
• Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

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