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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 3:29 am
Live in Israel, grew up in England.
I speak English and Hebrew.
And high school level French - I like trying to converse in French when I get an opportunity, I am amazed at the words that suddenly come back to me.
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Ora in town
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 3:38 am
singleagain wrote: | Yes, but the way ppl make fun of non native speakers, combined with my anxiety... It's way too scary to contemplate. So I just listen to my mom talk Hebrew/ watch Hebrew tv clips and asks her questions. |
Really?
So you think it is not nice to make fun of language mistakes non native speakers make?
I think so too...
Actually the Israelis are really nice in helping people learn hebrew. You can interrupt their conversation any time and ask what a word means. And they will correct you for free... Every Israeli is a hebrew teacher!
So I think spoken hebrew is one of the easiest languages to learn, because you get so much support from the native speakers....
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amother
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 4:17 am
I speak 7 languages, 4 really fluently, 3 less so (but I could sustain a conversation without too much effort in those too)
Hebrew, English, Spanish, Yiddish, Italian, French, German
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amother
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 4:51 am
I speak Russian, German, English, Hebrew, Ukrainian and a bit of French. I understand Jiddish if spoken slowly š
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sequoia
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 5:22 am
I speak English, Russian, and French, and Iām learning Ukrainian.
Some Spanish, understand Yiddish a little.
Hebrew - forget about it! I daven in English.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 5:24 am
sequoia wrote: | I speak English, Russian, and French, and Iām learning Ukrainian.
Some Spanish, understand Yiddish a little.
Hebrew - forget about it! I daven in English. | which language is your mother tongue?
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sequoia
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 5:51 am
amother [ cornflower ] wrote: | which language is your mother tongue? |
Russian
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amother
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 5:53 am
I speak two languages on mother tongue level
one language fluently
two languages on B2 level (advanced intermediate/basic fluent)
one language used to speak almost fluently but have forgotten most of it can still understand, though
one language can understand a lot but can't really speak
Grew up in NY, but have spent a lot of time in other countries, now live in Europe.
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amother
cornflower
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 7:00 am
so why do daven in English when I may ssk?
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sequoia
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 7:02 am
amother [ cornflower ] wrote: | so why do daven in English when I may ssk? |
Because English is easier for me.
I was four when we emigrated.
Mother tongue... literally... is Russian Like, what I speak with my mother
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amother
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 7:06 am
amother [ Orchid ] wrote: | I speak two languages on mother tongue level
one language fluently
two languages on B2 level (advanced intermediate/basic fluent)
one language used to speak almost fluently but have forgotten most of it can still understand, though
one language can understand a lot but can't really speak
Grew up in NY, but have spent a lot of time in other countries, now live in Europe. |
May I know which ones?
You're amother, after all
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singleagain
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 7:39 am
Ora in town wrote: | Really?
So you think it is not nice to make fun of language mistakes non native speakers make?
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Yes, really. Any language where someone is trying to learn, there's the one jerk who makes fun of your mistakes, and coupled with my anxiety. Bam! It makes me incredibly self conscious.
And how could you even ask the second question? I don't care that the rest of the post you said you don't agree ... The way you phrase the question rubs me wrong.
Especially, since I wasn't talking about Hebrew specifically. But any language.
I've had severe second hand embarrassment when I've seen on this board people making fun of non native speakers writing.
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amother
Mustard
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 7:47 am
I speak, understand, read and write fluently...
1) English
2) French
3) Dutch
4)Hebrew
5)German
6)Yiddish
7)Swiss German (e/o who speaks Swiss-german, will automatically speak German, but not vice versa)
8)Yiddish
9)Loshon Hora
10)Italian (understanding and speaking only. Haven't used it in years though)
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yonabets
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 7:52 am
I am french
I learn English in school and went in U.k for seminary (used to speak and write very very well English at this time!!)
And I live in Israel .I speak Hebrew (with a lots of mistakes..)
I learned German in school but I hated it so I don't know a word (beside ich leibe dich. I love you)
And I understand a little bit Spanish....
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watergirl
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 7:55 am
amother [ Mustard ] wrote: | I speak, understand, read and write fluently...
1) English
2) French
3) Dutch
4)Hebrew
5)German
6)Yiddish
7)Swiss German (e/o who speaks Swiss-german, will automatically speak German, but not vice versa)
8)Yiddish
9)Loshon Hora
10)Italian (understanding and speaking only. Haven't used it in years though) |
I have to thank you for your post. The lashon hara quip is actually a light bulb moment for me. Not going to derail this thread to discuss, but I am going to discuss it in real life with my chaburah. Thank you so much!
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Ora in town
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 7:55 am
singleagain wrote: | Yes, really. Any language where someone is trying to learn, there's the one jerk who makes fun of your mistakes, and coupled with my anxiety. Bam! It makes me incredibly self conscious.
And how could you even ask the second question? I don't care that the rest of the post you said you don't agree ... The way you phrase the question rubs me wrong.
Especially, since I wasn't talking about Hebrew specifically. But any language.
I've had severe second hand embarrassment when I've seen on this board people making fun of non native speakers writing. | Same here...
I completey agree with you. I am speaking about any language. And I am speaking about any kind of mocking. Also making fun about names in foreign languages that might sound "funny" in your native language.
When I come across someone making fun of language errors a non-native speakers makes, I lose respect for the mocker. I find this behavior primitive and reprehensible.
On the other hand, many people, and, what I found astonishing, many users on this forum think it's completely OK...
I was just happy to find someone who agrees with me on this forum... And I opened a spinoff with a poll, to check whether there is more than one person on this forum who agrees with me...
Also, I observed that people who are not good at foreign languages or who speak just one language tend to make more fun of mistakes non-native speakers make. And people who speak a few languages just tend not to find the mistakes funny... That's also a reason why I find this kind of mocking primitive. It shows a lack of openness towards the world... and an unjustified hubris...
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mamaof2
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 11:48 am
English and Russian
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amother
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 7:21 pm
Russian, Ukrainian, English. Can read in Hebrew and know a few words in Yiddish and Hebrew.
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sequoia
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Mon, Jun 29 2020, 7:37 pm
Ok so apparently everyone speaks Ukrainian but me.
I am really struggling with it š¢
The more I learn, the more difficult/different it seems.
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