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amother




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Post  Tue, Jun 30 2020, 9:38 pm
Please help, I am new to this.... 6 year old ds recently diagnosed with adhd. Highly impulsive, extremely low frustration tolerance, disregulated, plus focusing difficulties.

Dr first put him on a Metadate?, which he said is like a long acting ritalin. It made him turn into a monster- he was going crazy, yelling, screaming, throwing himself on the floor, it was such a nebach. So we took him off and the dr prescribed Vyvanse. Same reaction. We were going crazy with him, counting down the hours till it wore off...

now what? Obviously I will call the dr, but wanted to hear from some experienced mothers...

Does this mean stimulants aren't for him? Or keep trying other meds in this category?

Is this common to react like this?

Thank you so much...
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amother




Emerald
 

Post  Tue, Jun 30 2020, 10:12 pm
Call the doctor Mayb the dose. Also Sometimes these meds are given together with another med to help balance it out.
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amother




Mustard
 

Post  Tue, Jun 30 2020, 10:14 pm
Try the mildest stimulant, I think regular short acting Ritalin. I had reactions to stimulants and that one worked for me. Try it on the lowest dose.
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yy




 
 
 
 

Post  Tue, Jun 30 2020, 10:15 pm
Ritalin was terrible for my son. Concerta worked wonders
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amother




Emerald
 

Post  Tue, Jun 30 2020, 10:16 pm
Mayb the dose is too high to start off with
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amother




Slategray
 

Post  Tue, Jun 30 2020, 10:17 pm
Talking straight from my heart now
I know it’s sooooooo HARD
I have my own adorable challenged package Bh
I’d rather invest in cranial & natural supplements even if it’s $$$$$$$ which we don’t have:/
Hatslacha in wtvr u do !may you find the right shliach
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amother




Mustard
 

Post  Tue, Jun 30 2020, 10:18 pm
yy wrote:
Ritalin was terrible for my son. Concerta worked wonders

Everyone's body chemistry is different, you just have to keep trying different ones. Concerta gave me heart palpitations.
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amother




Lemon
 

Post  Tue, Jun 30 2020, 11:03 pm
You can pull him off stimulants and try intuniv, if he can swallow a pill. It is really great for regulating moods and impulsivity. If he can't swallow, you can try straterra, which come sin capsules tg hat can be opened. Stimulants make my kids crazy.
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amother




Chartreuse
 

Post  Wed, Jul 01 2020, 12:08 am
Lower the dose and don’t use the long acting pill. Instead have him take 2 low dose 4 hour pills, one in morning and a second one in afternoon if needed.
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amother




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Post  Wed, Jul 01 2020, 12:09 am
Thank you so much for the responses.

As far as the dose, both of them started at the smallest dose, 10 mg each.

I will definitely call the dr tomorrow.
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amother




Chocolate
 

Post  Wed, Jul 01 2020, 12:25 am
amother [ Slategray ] wrote:
Talking straight from my heart now
I know it’s sooooooo HARD
I have my own adorable challenged package Bh
I’d rather invest in cranial & natural supplements even if it’s $$$$$$$ which we don’t have:/
Hatslacha in wtvr u do !may you find the right shliach

Can you please be more specific? I’ve tried natural supplements. Did nothing. Two kids with adhd. Would love to hear more. Thanks!!
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amother




Green
 

Post  Wed, Jul 01 2020, 12:41 am
amother [ Chocolate ] wrote:
Can you please be more specific? I’ve tried natural supplements. Did nothing. Two kids with adhd. Would love to hear more. Thanks!!
finally focused by dr James greenblatt and healing the 4a disorders by dr Kenneth bock are great books to start with.

Which supplements did u try?
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amother




Papaya
 

Post  Wed, Jul 01 2020, 1:03 am
amother [ Slategray ] wrote:
Talking straight from my heart now
I know it’s sooooooo HARD
I have my own adorable challenged package Bh
I’d rather invest in cranial & natural supplements even if it’s $$$$$$$ which we don’t have:/
Hatslacha in wtvr u do !may you find the right shliach


Cranial therapy helped your ADHD child? Which therapist did you use?
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imasinger




 
 
 
 

Post  Wed, Jul 01 2020, 7:01 am
Was he like that all day on the metadate, or just part of the day?

The reason there are several medications for ADHD is because many people do great on one, and terrible on another.

It's probably worth it to keep trying, and also to try non prescription options, like Nurtured Heart approach, charts, lots of exercise, neurofeedback, Feingold diet, essential oils.

I hope you find some solutions that work!
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amother




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Post  Wed, Jul 01 2020, 1:27 pm
imasinger wrote:
Was he like that all day on the metadate, or just part of the day?

The reason there are several medications for ADHD is because many people do great on one, and terrible on another.

It's probably worth it to keep trying, and also to try non prescription options, like Nurtured Heart approach, charts, lots of exercise, neurofeedback, Feingold diet, essential oils.

I hope you find some solutions that work!


Yes, all day.

Thank you, will keep trying!
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amother




Green
 

Post  Wed, Jul 01 2020, 1:42 pm
Find a functional medical dr to figure out the root cause. And guide you in treating at that level. Usually with adhd some of the root causes are methylation issues, poor gut health, food sensitivities, brain inflammation, chronic infections like strep (pandas), yeast overgrowth, metal toxicity, mineral Imbalances, nutrient deficiencies.
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Mama Bear




 
 
 
 

Post  Wed, Jul 01 2020, 6:21 pm
stimulants tend to highlight the child's senses. he might find the new tingly feeling to be a sensory overload.
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amother




Copper
 

Post  Wed, Jul 01 2020, 8:18 pm
I would try a non stimulant. Many people are finding it works much better without negative side effects.
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amother




OP
 

Post  Wed, Jul 01 2020, 10:01 pm
amother [ Green ] wrote:
Find a functional medical dr to figure out the root cause. And guide you in treating at that level. Usually with adhd some of the root causes are methylation issues, poor gut health, food sensitivities, brain inflammation, chronic infections like strep (pandas), yeast overgrowth, metal toxicity, mineral Imbalances, nutrient deficiencies.


Who does this? is it mainstream? and most importantly, does it work?
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amother




Green
 

Post  Wed, Jul 01 2020, 10:07 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote:
Who does this? is it mainstream? and most importantly, does it work?
functional medicine is done by real medical doctors who have extra training in uncovering and treating root causes. Sometimes they use allopathic medicine to treat, sometimes alternative, and sometimes a combination. There is a level of trial and error here, and things take time, these aren’t quick fixes, and kids respond differently to different things, but at the end of the day it’s an approach that works on fixing causes and many people see amazing results. The two books I mentioned upthread can give you a good idea of what this would look like.
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