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Just when I was starting to relax about Covid, this is scary
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:00 am
Just when I was starting to relax about Covid, this is scaring the daylights out of me. I didnt read anything about the young person having underlying conditions.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/30-y.....31414

30-year-old dies after attending 'COVID party' thinking virus was a 'hoax'
The man told nurses, "I think I made a mistake."

"I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it's not."

Those were the final words of a 30-year-old patient who died at Methodist Hospital in San Antonio this week after attending a so-called "COVID party," according to the hospital.

Dr. Jane Appleby, chief medical officer for Methodist Hospital and Methodist Children’s Hospital, said in a recorded statement that the unidentified patient told nurses about the party, which she said is hosted by someone diagnosed with coronavirus.

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"The thought is people get together to see if the virus is real and if anyone gets infected," Appleby said.

Appleby said she shared the story not to scare people, but to make sure they understand that the virus can affect anyone.

Bexar County, where San Antonio is located, currently has 18,602 confirmed cases, with an increase of 923 on Friday, according to the Department of Health.

The age range with the most cases were in people aged 20 to 29, making up 24%, and 30 to 39, making up 20%, according to the department.

She said while some can be treated and discharged, others become seriously ill.

Appleby warned that the virus "doesn't discriminate" and encouraged the public to wear a mask and stay home as much as possible.
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:07 am
Sad story.

I don't see anything new here.
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southernbubby




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:07 am
I agree but anyone who wants to limit freedoms is now called a dictator, socialist, rasha, etc and everyone should be free to commit suicide. That's called being pro-life.
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:12 am
Whoever I speak to, is doing whatever they want to do, similar to pre-Covid days, other than kissing and hugging others.

At most, theyre wearing masks in crowded places only.

Are they fooling themselves, that the risk is very low?
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elisheva25




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:13 am
But this out right stupidity , to go attend COVID party.
Most people don’t fall into that category.
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:15 am
No one should willingly expose themselves to COVID.

If you need to come in contact with an infected person wear an n95 mask, stay several feet away, wash your hands and make sure you have no open cuts. Go in and out as quickly as possible since infection is more likely from prolonged contact.

COVID is scary but your chances of getting infected from someone you’re only exposed to for a few minutes, or who has no symptoms, are slim.

Cars are a lot more terrifying and have a far higher fatality rate for those of us who aren’t at risk of COVID. Most people don’t think twice (I do)
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:18 am
amother [ Green ] wrote:
Sad story.

I don't see anything new here.
Its meant to scare everyone into submission. Publicize a tragic story of someone who thought COVID was harmless because he was low risk, then show how he became deathly ill and regretted his actions.
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Rutabaga




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:18 am
elisheva25 wrote:
But this out right stupidity , to go attend COVID party.
Most people don’t fall into that category.


Not exactly. The only difference between attending a so-called covid party and going to a crowded indoor space where no one is taking precautions at all is that in the first case you know there is someone with a diagnosed case and in the latter it is possible (even likely in some hotspots) but not definite. It's like playing Russian roulette with your health.
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giselle




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:19 am
Not sure why this is scaring the living daylights out of you. Because people are imbeciles? Or did you also believe it’s a hoax? People are being more relaxed, because they think the risk has passed, not because they don’t believe it’s catchy. Whether or not that’s true can be debated, but it’s worlds away from attending a party hosted by someone with the disease. Unfortunately there is no known cure for stupid.
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Simple1




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:22 am
Wasn't there a study that said that a higher viral load causes more severe illness? This is sad, but a COVID party was obviously not a good idea and most people are not doing that.
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:27 am
amother [ Ecru ] wrote:
Cars are a lot more terrifying and have a far higher fatality rate for those of us who aren’t at risk of COVID.


I didnt read anywhere that the 30 year old who died was at any greater risk than the average person.
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:28 am
I would like to see numbers. Where can I find them?
How many ill?
How many mild or moderate vs criticall ill?
How many recent hospitalizations?
How many recovered?
How many recent deaths?
Per state in the US. Updated recently.
Where do I find this information? Link anyone?

I know there is only 1% testing positive in the entire NY State and hospitalizations and deaths are down the most since March.
NY is no longer a hotspot.

Where do I find info on other states?
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:29 am
Simple1 wrote:
This is sad, but a COVID party was obviously not a good idea and most people are not doing that.


What do we suspect was going on at the Covid party? Everyone kissing each other?
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jerusalem90




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:33 am
I think people on both sides have lost proportions.

On one hand, you have people having Covid parties.

On the other, you have people who think it's a good idea to fine a person for lowering their mask in order to DRINK when they are outdoors in the heat.
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Ema of 5




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:35 am
Rutabaga wrote:
Not exactly. The only difference between attending a so-called covid party and going to a crowded indoor space where no one is taking precautions at all is that in the first case you know there is someone with a diagnosed case and in the latter it is possible (even likely in some hotspots) but not definite. It's like playing Russian roulette with your health.

What you defined is stupidity, as the other poster said.
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:37 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
What do we suspect was going on at the Covid party? Everyone kissing each other?


Probably just hanging out in a crowded room, shaking hands and so on. Not unlike kiddush after davening.
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:39 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
Whoever I speak to, is doing whatever they want to do, similar to pre-Covid days, other than kissing and hugging others.

At most, theyre wearing masks in crowded places only.

Are they fooling themselves, that the risk is very low?



They are not fooling themselves. The risk of dying for people around age 30 is indeed extremely low. I'm not saying this behavior is ok as they can still spread it, but if you're talking about this age group's risk, it is very low.
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ora_43




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:39 am
amother [ Ecru ] wrote:
Cars are a lot more terrifying and have a far higher fatality rate for those of us who aren’t at risk of COVID. Most people don’t think twice (I do)

Where do you live that cars are so fatal? Here the odds of dying in a car crash ever, over your entire life, are something like 0.03% (if you're over age 4). And that's assuming that we're all just as likely to die in a car crash as the idiots who drive drunk.
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Rutabaga




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:40 am
Ema of 4 wrote:
What you defined is stupidity, as the other poster said.


I think both cases are foolish, but there are plenty of women on this site who are doing the latter and saying it's not like the former.
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ora_43




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 12 2020, 9:52 am
OTOH, OP - the fact that covid19 sometimes kills healthy young people isn't something that needs to scare the daylights out of you. Healthy young people sometimes die. That's not new. I can think of a whole list of friends, friends-of-friends, siblings-of-friends, etc, who've gone in all kinds of ways - hit by a car at age 10, leukemia at age 27, brain aneurysm at age 16, overdose at 18, heart attack at age 13...

It's awful. I'm not saying it isn't. But it's always been this way. I don't think there's any cause of death about which you could say, "oh, that never affects young people, you're 100% safe from that."

A healthy 30-year-old dying of covid19 doesn't mean that covid19 is any more or less deadly than we thought it was. It just means that, if the odds of death for healthy 30-year-olds are 1 in 1,000, well - someone is going to be that 1 person in 1,000. And when millions of people get sick, hundreds or even thousands of people will be that 1 in 1,000.

It's tragic, but it shouldn't be surprising, and it shouldn't make you lose sight of the other 999.
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