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amother




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Post  Thu, Sep 24 2020, 10:42 pm
Face masks may be inadvertently giving people Covid-19 immunity and making them get less sick from the virus, academics have suggested in one of the most respected medical journals in the world.

The commentary, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, advances the unproven but promising theory that universal face mask wearing might be helping to reduce the severity of the virus and ensuring that a greater proportion of new infections are asymptomatic.

If this hypothesis is borne out, the academics argue, then universal mask-wearing could become a form of variolation (inoculation) that would generate immunity and “thereby slow the spread of the virus in the United States and elsewhere” as the world awaits a vaccine.

It comes as increasing evidence suggests that the amount of virus someone is exposed to at the start of infection - the “infectious dose” - may determine the severity of their illness. Indeed, a large study published in the Lancet last month found that “viral load at diagnosis” was an “independent predictor of mortality” in hospital patients.

Wearing masks could therefore reduce the infectious dose that the wearer is exposed to and, subsequently, the impact of the disease, as masks filter out some virus-containing droplets.


If this theory bears out, researchers argue, then population-wide mask wearing might ensure that a higher proportion of Covid-19 infections are asymptomatic.

Better still, as data has emerged in recent weeks suggesting that there can be strong immune responses from even mild or asymptomatic coronavirus infection, researchers say that any public health strategy that helps reduce the severity of the virus - such as mask wearing - should increase population-wide immunity as well.

This is because even a low viral load can be enough to induce an immune response, which is effectively what a typical vaccine does.

While this hypothesis needs to be backed up with more clinical study, experiments in hamsters have hinted at a connection between dose and disease. Earlier this year, a team of researchers in China found that hamsters housed behind a barrier made of surgical masks were less likely to get infected by the coronavirus. And those who did contract the virus became less sick than other animals without masks to protect them.

Some observations found in humans seem to support this as well. In a coronavirus outbreak on a closed Argentinian cruise ship, for example, where passengers were provided with surgical masks and staff with N95 masks, the rate of asymptomatic infection was 81 per cent. This is compared with 20 per cent in earlier cruise ship outbreaks without universal masking.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gl.....hers/
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ellacoe




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 12:10 am
Thank you. Very interesting theory.
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little neshamala




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 12:33 am
Amazing
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amother




Ivory
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 9:30 am
Forgive me if I don't swallow a Lancet study hook line and sinker. They kinda have a wishywashy reputation right now.
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exaustedmom




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 9:32 am
interesting! But if there is one thing we learned by now is that nobody knows anything about this virus.
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amother




Powderblue
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 9:38 am
Fine, if face masks are so helpful then open everything up and let us do everything just with masks on. You can't have it both ways.
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amother




Seafoam
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 9:39 am
Hope this theory turns out to be true.

Our kids have had a lot more masked exposure than DH and I have actually, so I'm not sure that I personally would benefit. I work from home and only wear a mask when I get takeout or briefly pop into a store. DH only masks up in the common areas of his office, but spends most of his day in his private office with door shut and no mask. But the kids wear masks in school much of the day.
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amother




Seafoam
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 9:40 am
amother [ Powderblue ] wrote:
Fine, if face masks are so helpful then open everything up and let us do everything just with masks on. You can't have it both ways.

This is literally what is happening in my state. Almost everything is open, including most schools, but masks are required everywhere indoors.
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#BestBubby




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 9:43 am
I don't believe it. Fake Science.

Certain people would like to make masking (muzzle) on us peasants permanent. These people
can always get "scientists" to come up with a "study" or "theory" to get us to do whatever they want us peasants to do.

In the past, government controlled We the People with Fake Religion. Today it is Fake Science.

But the goal is the same - CONTROL


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ValleyMom




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 9:43 am
I just want to see the pictures of the hamsters wearing tiny hamster-sized masks.
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amother




Forestgreen
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 9:46 am
amother [ Powderblue ] wrote:
Fine, if face masks are so helpful then open everything up and let us do everything just with masks on. You can't have it both ways.


Yes. Fully open. Don't make me wait in line outdoors of costco in the rain. Let doctors offices open up their waiting rooms. Let patients have visitors. Open up all the public schools and let children go to school with their masks on.

Tell us we only need masks. And let us live a full life. But no. Everything has to be at lower capacity. Public schools meet for only Three days a week.

My local supermarket has a bouncer.
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#BestBubby




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 9:51 am
Cloth masks cannot stop the virus. Just like a chain link fence cannot stop mosquitoes.

People have no idea how tiny a virus is - can easily get through cloth masks.

Countries with strict masking laws did not stop the spread of Covid.


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#BestBubby




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 9:53 am
And masks are Unhealthy.

They are full of germs that get on your hands every time you touch them.

They also restrict oxygen and increase inhaling CO2 - unhealthy
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#BestBubby




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 11:31 am
amother [ Forestgreen ] wrote:
Yes. Fully open. Don't make me wait in line outdoors of costco in the rain. Let doctors offices open up their waiting rooms. Let patients have visitors. Open up all the public schools and let children go to school with their masks on.

Tell us we only need masks. And let us live a full life. But no. Everything has to be at lower capacity. Public schools meet for only Three days a week.

My local supermarket has a bouncer.


You don't get it.

Government wants the shutdown - destroy business/jobs and make people dependent on
government handouts I.e. slaves.

And wearing masks PROLONGS the shutdown because it is a form of "speech" that says
"I believe there is a deadly pandemic" when Covid poses extremely low risk to those under 65.
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HakarasHatov




 
 
 
 

Post  Fri, Sep 25 2020, 11:48 am
#BestBubby wrote:
Cloth masks cannot stop the virus. Just like a chain link fence cannot stop mosquitoes.

People have no idea how tiny a virus is - can easily get through cloth masks.

Countries with strict masking laws did not stop the spread of Covid.
not an equal analogy, chain link fence has more openings than "fabric" masks have more fabric than openings. mosquitos are bigger than a chain link fence and direct their flight to where they want to go (light, scents etc) virus is very small, smaller than a thread of fabric, and they do not self propel. therefore if a virus land on the fabric, Then it stops there, thus masks would recuse the quantity of virus that gets past the mask. NOT ALL of the virus, and also not none of the virus, SOME of the virus gets in and SOME stays out.
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amother




Goldenrod
 

Post  Tue, Sep 29 2020, 11:17 am
I’m converted, and eliminated my anxiety. I wear a mask all the time now with my kids in school, and want to protect my baby if I get it. Hooray
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