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amother

Mon, Oct 05 2020, 10:17 pm

What are the services that are possible to get on an IEP. I know a few , but very so often someone mentions a new benefit I was not aware of that I want to advocate for. The services that I’m aware of thus far are:

OT
PT
SEIT In school
SEIT at home
Speech therapy
Play therapy
ABA
Counseling for the child
Coaching/ counseling for the parents
Transportation

What other services are available by the CPSE/CSE

BrachaVHatzlocha

Mon, Oct 05 2020, 10:37 pm

para services

cnc

Mon, Oct 05 2020, 10:45 pm

amother [ OP ] wrote:

SEIT is only in school
SETTS in school or at home
I’ve never seen ABA on an IEP or IESP. It’s gotten through insurance/ not DOE.
FM unit
I’ve never seen play therapy either. I would assume it would fall under counseling which can be individual or in a group .

The name is currently slipping my mind , but if classified with a hearing impairment , there’s a modality where the child is taught how to read lips .

bsy

Mon, Oct 05 2020, 11:34 pm

cnc wrote:

Aural rehab?

cnc

Mon, Oct 05 2020, 11:45 pm

bsy wrote:

Aural rehab?

no

I'll see if I can pull it up somewhere
,

yidisheh mama

Mon, Oct 05 2020, 11:59 pm

In addition to what was already said,
Vision therapy/vision teacher
Orientation/mobility specialists
Educational audiology
Interpreting services

And yes, play therapy falls under counseling, as someone mentioned above.

amother

Cobalt

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 12:00 am

cnc wrote:

Oral translator?

TwinsMommy

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 12:27 am

extra time on tests, preferential seating, small group testing, and all that other back of the IEP stuff on the test page for those not on alternate assessments.

Placement in a self contained classroom
Placement in a self contained school

Mothers

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 12:31 am

I don’t understand. This is not an all-you-can-eat buffet. What does your child need?

miami85

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 1:01 am

Having lived in NY, but now live OOT where things work a little bit differently, I want to point out that any service on an IEP has to be supported by the evaluation results. And just because your child would benefit from "more services", your child has to spend time in the classroom to get the educational material. Educational services are meant to support a child's FAPE rights--a free and appropriate public education, not "fix my child's problem"(unless it's CPSE then it's a different role) there comes a point where if your child is not benefiting from the education then you may have to deal with the problem after school hours.I would stay still take what the CPSE/CSE are willing to give you but your fight for more services than are warranted doesn't always benefit your child.

Sunny Days

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 1:31 am

Mothers wrote:

I don’t understand. This is not an all-you-can-eat buffet. What does your child need?

This.
You can get an RN for school if needed
Are RSAs & or dual recs still avail?

seeker

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 4:17 am

Assistive technology

Re. all-you-can-eat buffet - of course not, but sometimes there are services or accommodations that can be exactly what a child needs except you didn't know they were a thing, and the district rep didn't mention it (not even deliberately - they may have had a long day with things going overtime and too many meetings and their mind jumps to the most obvious without thinking through creative options...)

amother

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 6:07 am

What is FM unit

amother

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 6:10 am

TwinsMommy wrote:

Placement in a self contained classroom
Placement in a self contained school

What does self contained classroom/school mean

amother

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 6:23 am

seeker wrote:

This , I keep getting “oh yeah” as time goes on I finding out my child needs another service And another. I almost didn’t get speech the main significant delay. so I want to know what’s out there so I can inquire based on dc evaluations. CPSE administrator seems to be on my side to get dc the help that is need function in classroom. It’s easier to ask about the options for dc if I know what I’m taking about

amother

Aquamarine

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 7:02 am

You can also get consult services where the speech therapist spends a certain amount of time per month training the classroom staff how to implement things like assistive technology.

amother

Forestgreen

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 8:29 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

What is FM unit

A personal frequency modulation (FM), worn by the teacher, uses radio waves to send speech and other signals to the student's hearing aids.

Mothers

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 8:40 am

Why don’t you explain what your child is about and what else (if anything) you think he/she needs to be successful at school - rather than compiling a list of services, which may or may not be appropriate? That way suggestions, which will match what your child actually needs. (e.g. If your child is not medically fragile, who cares if a child with significant medical needs can get nursing care at school?)

Just remember that throwing everything at your child to see what sticks, is a very inefficient way to meet his/her needs, and more is not necessarily better. Many (if not most) services have negative as well as positive (side) effects and should only be given if there is a clear and pressing need, as unnecessary services (in addition to wasting time and money) can remove a child from the classroom (where teaching is occurring), leave a child with very limited free time (and/or limited time for enjoyable activities), stigmatize child (by making him/her) different from peers, and/or damage a child’s sense of self-efficacy (by giving child implicit message that he/she cannot do for self without extra assistance- unlike other children).

Of course services are available for a reason, and appropriate supports and can provide great benefits to a child who really does need them - but again more is not necessarily better. That is why it makes more sense to paint a picture of your child and his/needs, and then get suggestions to meet those needs, rather than get random suggestions - which may or may not make any sense for your child.

cnc

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 10:12 am

Mothers wrote:

This.

TwinsMommy

Tue, Oct 06 2020, 10:33 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

What does self contained classroom/school mean

Self contained classroom is a class inside a school just for special ed students taught by an intervention specialist instead of a regular ed teacher. There are self contained classrooms for autism, multi handicapped, learning disabilities, etc etc. My daughter was in a self contained classroom for part of first grade in an ED unit (emotionally disturbed). She's been able to mainstream ever since but with pretty intensive intervention specialist supports (she wouldn't be able to do a Jewish school which rarely have trained intervention specialists).

Self contained school is a school just for special ed students. In my son's special ed school, ALL teachers ARE intervention specialists and are TCI trained. My son was in public school until 4th grade but they admitted they couldn't meet his needs (they had suspended him many many times and I was threatening due process) and bumped him to a special ed school. I'm not thrilled with the placement and hope he's able to come back to public school at some point. He's already in 8th though so who knows.

Pros and cons to each.

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