Does anyone else say “I feel chaloshes” for tired/weak

amother

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 12:34 am

youngishbear wrote:

It is used like the English idiom "I'm dying for an xyz."

The word chaloshes reminds me of the Country Yossi song Fetteh Shmeel.

"He turned green and got chaloshes
He began to moan and groan
Er hut ungefangen shvitzen
And he stumbled and he tumbled..."

I mostly hear it about something awful or terrible, as in substandard.

"Our hotel room was chalooshes... bedbugs and a broken toilet..."

Country Yossi has it right!!! Smile

amother

Peach

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 12:37 am

I’m super litvish and we used all these words. My yekke grandmother from Washington heights used to call our pale doughy challah Chalushes. And yup her lettuce was fashimilt. Wink

dankbar

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 12:42 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

Hahahha you’ve got me stumped! What is arangetein??

It is not only engrossed but so deeply engrossed that you are oblivious to what's going on around you to the point of almost obsession

amother

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 12:52 am

dankbar wrote:

It is not only engrossed but so deeply engrossed that you are oblivious to what's going on around you to the point of almost obsession

Thank you. What a great word. How do you spell it?

youngishbear

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 1:06 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

Ahhh that makes sense. Thank you

Does it? I don't know the rules of Yiddish spelling, as a system.

אריינגעטון
אריינגעטוען

zaq

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 3:22 am

I would never say chaleshing to mean craving something. I say chaleshing avek to mean about to faint from hunger, exhaustion, shock, heat or whatever. I use chaloshesdik as a synonym for sickening, nauseating, revolting. .

amother

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 12:36 pm

youngishbear wrote:

Does it? I don't know the rules of Yiddish spelling, as a system.

אריינגעטון
אריינגעטוען

I believe it’s just spelled in the polish Yiddish accent.
Meaning, I think the actual technical word in Yiddish is
אריינגעטאָן, but in Polish Yiddish I think it’s pronounced ״טוען״

youngishbear

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 12:44 pm

amother [ OP ] wrote:

In hungarian chassidish yiddish it's pronounced "teen"

So the ע appears superfluous.

But I already said I don't understand the spelling system in Yiddish. (Not that English is better. Not to mention French.)

Amarante

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 12:50 pm

My family used it to describe something that was ugly. In other words it made them feel chalushes when looking at it. Used to describe ugly clothing or furniture so it was somewhat used ironically and with typical Yiddish hyperbole.

I think mothers and aunts might have used to describe not feeling well but more to describe how they felt about the attractiveness of a physical object. 🤷‍♀️

We kids loved the way the word sounded that we would use it to the point where our parents would go a bit crazy 😜 from hearing so much. Like how kids overuse any kind of slang.

This would be Polish immigrants before World War II etymology if this is a linguistic survey.

Is verklempt Yiddish or just made up by Michael Myers in Cawfee Talk? 🤩🤩

amother

Lawngreen

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 12:54 pm

Amarante wrote:

Do you mean פארקלעמנט?

Amarante

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 12:59 pm

amother [ Lawngreen ] wrote:

Do you mean פארקלעמנט?

That is way above my knowledge.

Verklempt meaning feeling awful and terrible. Just overcome with emotions.

Mike Myers had a segment on SNL In which he played Linda Richmond who was a Jewish housewife with a cable talk show. One of her catch phrases was she was verklempt and often to the point where she couldn’t go on farther when she would say “talk amongst yourselves” I found it hilarious 🤣 but obviously others might not.

amother

Lawngreen

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 1:03 pm

Amarante wrote:

She didn't pronounce it right.
Should've been farklempt

youngishbear

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 1:07 pm

The word has come up before, so I know that it's used differently by chassidish Yiddish speakers than in contemporary secular Jewish culture.

We use פארקלעמט to mean brokenhearted, extremely sad.

The word verklempt is used differently. It's a more general word for being overcome with emotion, not necessarily heartbreaking ones.

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Amarante

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 1:09 pm

amother [ Lawngreen ] wrote:

She didn't pronounce it right.
Should've been farklempt

So it is Yiddish. I wasn’t sure since it wasn’t used by my family.

The Linda Richmond character has such a pronounced accent that she mangles many words LOL

Not just Yiddish. Smile

Amarante

Fri, Oct 09 2020, 1:10 pm

youngishbear wrote:

The word has come up before, so I kno9w that it's used differently by current fluent Yiddish speakers than in contemporary secular Jewish culture.

We use פארקלעמט to mean brokenhearted, extremely sad.

The word verklempt is used differently. It's a more general word for being overcome with emotion, not necessarily heartbreaking ones.

Linda Richmond was often rendered verklempt thinking about her idol Barbra Streisand. 🤣🤣