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Post  Sat, Oct 17 2020, 12:49 pm
amother [ Ivory ] wrote:
Its because public health policies in general have very very little to do with actual health. It’s because despite mountains and mountains of information and evidence about how to keep our bodies in optimal shape, government and other influential bodies insist on myopically focusing on one minute, tiny sliver of what constitutes health (avoidance of germs) and ignores everything else. This is why people lose trust.

I don't know where you live, and yet I'm sure that your government has made multiple efforts to get people exercising more and eating more healthily, driving more safely, and the like. Name one 'western' government that hasn't. Sure, plenty of these initiatives haven't been universally successful (just like 'hey, maybe avoid viruses' has only had mixed success), but they exist. In a normal year, more resources go into those types of programs than anything involving germs or viruses.
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Post  Sat, Oct 17 2020, 1:48 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
The First Amendment allows for anti-semitic remarks, racist remarks. Once we start
censoring, then all free speech is lost.

Frank: If you had any brains, you'd know war always increases stock prices.

Trapper: He's right, you know.

Hawkeye: Yeah? Then what happened to my 10,000 shares of Gestapo?

Frank: Ohh, I can't talk to you guys.

Hawkeye: Promise?
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Post  Sat, Oct 17 2020, 2:09 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote:
Don't you love that many ppl in the US are waking up to some of our truths?

Politicians don't create public policy for the sake of our health but for their own agenda
WHO, CDC, FDA not neccessarily trustworthy and their guidelines aren't toras moshe
Republicans are usually our friends while Democrats want totalitarianism
Awareness of the censorship on facebook youtube google... and that the censorship is not about truth and misinformation but about who toes the line and who doesn't.
Hospitals and doctors aren't g-d and can recommend treatment that kill or withhold lifesaving treatment in order to keep their licenses.

Feel free to add your own observations.

eta: it's unfortunate that it took a pandemic and so many lives lost...

I love how you add that it's "unfortunate" that "so many lives" were "lost" - but only as an afterthought.

The main point is that all these dead people are serving your purposes.
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ora_43




 
 
 
 

Post  Sat, Oct 17 2020, 3:25 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
There are MEDICAL DOCTORS and PH.D Scientists who are anti-vax.

You sure the plural applies here?

The only two I've heard of who are technically medical doctors are Weil and Palevsky, and even they are basically homeopaths who once graduated medical school. (That's not just me insulting them, they both openly practice homeopathy. Which, for those who aren't familiar with this particular brand of anti-scientific idiocy, is the idea that water that has touched certain substances has healing properties.)
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fleetwood




 
 
 
 

Post  Sat, Oct 17 2020, 8:34 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
People DIE from vaccines, too! Vaccine Court has paid awards for DEATH from vaccines.

Since THE GOVERNMENT refuses to do a Vax vs UnVax Study we don't know for sure which is
more dangerous, but the fact that THE GOVERNMENT (which gets Billions $$$ from Pharmaceutical
Industry) refuses to do a Vax vs UnVax study should tell you somethiing!


What is vaccine court?
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Post  Sat, Oct 17 2020, 8:40 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
The First Amendment allows for anti-semitic remarks, racist remarks. Once we start
censoring, then all free speech is lost.

People should just vigorously condemn anti-semitism. That is the safer option.


And if thousands of people shut down their Facebook accounts because of Holocaust deniers, how does that benefit Facebook? They are a business. Shouldn't they be allowed to protect themselves?
Probably many pharmaceutical companies advertise on Facebook and have threatened not to do so if anti-vax posts contain Youtube messages from anti-vax groups. They have claimed that they don't censor individual posts that don't contain content from these groups. Basically someone would be able to state that his children were not vaccinated and the post would supposedly be allowed to stay but probably anti-vax memes are taken down.
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#BestBubby




 
 
 
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 9:41 am
southernbubby wrote:
And if thousands of people shut down their Facebook accounts because of Holocaust deniers, how does that benefit Facebook? They are a business. Shouldn't they be allowed to protect themselves?
Probably many pharmaceutical companies advertise on Facebook and have threatened not to do so if anti-vax posts contain Youtube messages from anti-vax groups. They have claimed that they don't censor individual posts that don't contain content from these groups. Basically someone would be able to state that his children were not vaccinated and the post would supposedly be allowed to stay but probably anti-vax memes are taken down.


If Facebook is NOT ALLOWED to censor Holocaust Denial or Anti-Vax Posts, people would not cancel their accounts. It is only because Facebook IS allowed to censor that people are doing that in protest.
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