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#BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 11:01 am
When the government (CDC) and Vaccine Companies REFUSE to do a Vax vs UnVax Study
(can be retrospective) that is ANTI-SCIENCE and evidence they are covering up the harm
caused by vaccines.
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#BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 11:05 am
In 1986, pharmaceutical Industry got IMMUNITY from LIABILITY Law Suits. CDC QUADRUPLED (4x)
the Vaccine Schedule - and keep increasing. We have the Sickest Generation in History!

1:6 children are learning disabled

1:6 children are allergic (can be FATAL)

1:8 children have IBS

1:10 children have ADHD

1:13 children have asthma (can be FATAL)

1:25 have Epilepsy/Seizure Disorder

1:45 children have AUTISM and rate keeps increasing

1:250 children have Tourettes Syndrome

1:400 children have Diabetes

1:775 babies die of SIDS

1:1,000 children have Celiac Disease

1:5,560 children have CANCER

ZERO deaths from Measles, Mumps or Chickenpox (in USA)

432 deaths following vaccination reported to VAERS in 2016
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nchr




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 11:08 am
amother [ OP ] wrote:
I hear you.
There are just as many stories of people who react badly to vaccines. The story that you posted is not considered a study, though. Please refer back to my original post about being respectful here. Thanks.


No. There are not as many "stories" of individuals reacting poorly to vaccines as those who actually suffer as a result of a vaccine preventable illnesses. A severe or long term adverse reaction to a vaccine is probably around 1 in 1 million or 1 in 3 million doses, depending on the vaccine and the reaction. Choosing to vaccinate or not is still your choice.
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#BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 11:23 am
nchr wrote:
No. There are not as many "stories" of individuals reacting poorly to vaccines as those who actually suffer as a result of a vaccine preventable illnesses. A severe or long term adverse reaction to a vaccine is probably around 1 in 1 million or 1 in 3 million doses, depending on the vaccine and the reaction. Choosing to vaccinate or not is still your choice.


So many children are suffering from so many chronic diseases. The number of children suffering CHRONIC diseases is close to 50% according to some experts. This is the sickest generation of
children in US history - and it all started AFTER the CDC QUADRUPLED (4x) the vaccine schedule
in 1990!

And the CDC refuses to do a Vax vx UnVax Study - Nchr, that doesn't disturb you????
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amother
Turquoise


 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 11:24 am
#BestBubby wrote:
In 1986, pharmaceutical Industry got IMMUNITY from LIABILITY Law Suits. CDC QUADRUPLED (4x)
the Vaccine Schedule - and keep increasing. We have the Sickest Generation in History!

1:6 children are learning disabled

1:6 children are allergic (can be FATAL)

1:8 children have IBS

1:10 children have ADHD

1:13 children have asthma (can be FATAL)

1:25 have Epilepsy/Seizure Disorder

1:45 children have AUTISM and rate keeps increasing

1:250 children have Tourettes Syndrome

1:400 children have Diabetes

1:775 babies die of SIDS

1:1,000 children have Celiac Disease

1:5,560 children have CANCER

ZERO deaths from Measles, Mumps or Chickenpox (in USA)

432 deaths following vaccination reported to VAERS in 2016

#BestBubby wrote:
So many children are suffering from so many chronic diseases. The number of children suffering CHRONIC diseases is close to 50% according to some experts. This is the sickest generation of
children in US history - and it all started AFTER the CDC QUADRUPLED (4x) the vaccine schedule
in 1990!

And the CDC refuses to do a Vax vx UnVax Study - Nchr, that doesn't disturb you????
That's a lot of numbers- what's your source for this info?
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#BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 11:29 am
amother [ Turquoise ] wrote:
That's a lot of numbers- what's your source for this info?


Alarming New Studies: 50% of U.S. Children Have Chronic Disease/Disorders, 21% Developmentally Disabled https://wholefoodusa.wordpress.....bled/
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amother
Royalblue


 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 11:30 am
amother [ Blonde ] wrote:
You lost me at Mercola, the anti vaxxer who doesn't believe in germ theory.


THIS
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southernbubby




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 11:47 am
Everyone has an agenda so I am skeptical about everything but I recently took both the Prevnar 13 for pneumonia and Fluzone HD for flu because that's how I hedged my bets. I didn't exactly enjoy having coronavirus and probably will eventually get vaccinated for that to avoid another infection.
I don't think that the world will easily give up on masks and social distance until something makes the virus less prevalent. Ignoring it probably won't make it go away.
Because I personally rely on vaccines, I don't take people like RFJ Jr too seriously.
I do agree with best bubby that a study should be done on unvaccinated children but probably most children today have been vaccinated for something and I stereotype American anti-vaxers as upper middle class well educated white people so it may be hard to find test subjects outside that demographic. Alternative medicine is often used instead but poor people usually don't have that as an option.
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amother
Slategray


 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 11:59 am
amother [ Amber ] wrote:
People forget that the rest of the world also exists, and America is not the center of the universe.
If you have questions about medicine, health and what is working right now, maybe look at how other countries are handling this virus and vaccines. Bill Gates and Big Pharma cannot be controling the rest of the world.
Could they?

Yes they could
Money talks always had always will
These ppl have the money and the connections to influence the entire world
He’s the richest man, not just in the US, but the world.
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amother
Burlywood


 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 12:26 pm
southernbubby wrote:

I don't think that the world will easily give up on masks and social distance until something makes the virus less prevalent. Ignoring it probably won't make it go away.
Because I personally rely on vaccines, I don't take people like RFJ Jr too seriously.


To the first point, I think ignoring it will. I have logic to this. When tribes from the Amazon forest and the like get exposed to us, they tend to sicken severely or die quite often. From our regular run of the mill germs like colds. Its because their bodies have never encountered it before. Its novel to them. If they live they adjust just fine. Thats my thought on that. What do you think?

Two: I looked into RFK. While he is held up as a champion to anti-vax, its not because he is anti-vax. Its because he is pro the hippocratic oath and human rights. Because he wants the manufacturers to be held accountable & produce better products and do better studies. I have seen him say he is not anti -vax. It seems true. He is also a Democrat with a capital D. He took a lot of flack from anti vaxxers for promoting pro Biden-Harris position.
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#BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 12:29 pm
1:6 have learning disabilities A new report reveals the number of students receiving special education is increasing, with 13 percent of all students receiving such services. https://www.usnews.com/news/ed.....-rise

Allergies: One large-scale review of hospital admissions data found anaphylaxis cases on the rise in the US, Australia and Europe, among other regions. In the US, hospital visits for food allergy increased threefold from 1993 to 2006. Between 2013 and 2019, England saw a 72% rise in the number of hospital admissions for children caused by anaphylaxis, https://www.bbc.com/future/art.....ising

There has been a steep rise in cases of asthma and allergies in the U.S. over the past few decades. Why?

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), about one in 12 people in the U.S. has asthma, or about 25 million people. And the rate appears to be on the rise. From 2001 to 2011, the CDC says the number of Americans with asthma grew by 28 percent https://www.healthline.com/hea.....10813

While allergies were rare before the mid-20th century, they’re now a common occurrence in children and adults alike. According to the Food Allergy Research and Education Organization, 15 million people in the U.S. have a food allergy. https://www.mentalfloss.com/ar.....a-why

STUDY: An estimated 43% of US children (32 million) currently have at least 1 of 20 chronic health conditions assessed, increasing to 54.1% when overweight, obesity, or being at risk for developmental delays are included; 19.2% (14.2 million) have conditions resulting in a special health care need, a 1.6 point increase since 2003. https://www.sciencedirect.com/.....02500



ADHD: CDC: Nearly 1 in 10 Kids Has ADHD https://www.webmd.com/add-adhd.....dhd#1

Approximately 1 in 26 People in the United States Will Develop Epilepsy https://www.epilepsy.com/make-.....ells.


Autism cases in U.S. jump to 1 in 45

The report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and National Center for Health Statistics shows that the prevalence of autism in children ages 3 to 17 went up about 80 percent from 2011-2013 to 2014. Instead of 1 in 80 (or 1.25 percent) children having autism -- a number that has alarmed public health officials in recent years and strained state and school system resources -- researchers now estimate that the prevalence is now 1 in 45 (or 2.24 percent).

https://www.washingtonpost.com.....arts/

Tourette Syndrome Studies that included children with diagnosed and undiagnosed TS have estimated that 1 of every 162 children (0.6%) have TS. https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/tourette/data.html

Diabetes The risk of type 1 diabetes in the general population is reported to be approximately 1 in 400...Diabetes is an increasing concern within the U.S. and around the world. Its remarkable growth rate has reached an epidemic proportion in recent years. While most cases of diabetes diagnosed in the U.S. are type 2 diabetes, the number of cases of type 1 diabetes is increasing. https://www.powerpak.com/cours.....18947



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Java




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 12:31 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
1:6 have learning disabilities A new report reveals the number of students receiving special education is increasing, with 13 percent of all students receiving such services. https://www.usnews.com/news/ed.....-rise

Allergies: One large-scale review of hospital admissions data found anaphylaxis cases on the rise in the US, Australia and Europe, among other regions. In the US, hospital visits for food allergy increased threefold from 1993 to 2006. Between 2013 and 2019, England saw a 72% rise in the number of hospital admissions for children caused by anaphylaxis, https://www.bbc.com/future/art.....ising

There has been a steep rise in cases of asthma and allergies in the U.S. over the past few decades. Why?

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), about one in 12 people in the U.S. has asthma, or about 25 million people. And the rate appears to be on the rise. From 2001 to 2011, the CDC says the number of Americans with asthma grew by 28 percent https://www.healthline.com/hea.....10813

While allergies were rare before the mid-20th century, they’re now a common occurrence in children and adults alike. According to the Food Allergy Research and Education Organization, 15 million people in the U.S. have a food allergy. https://www.mentalfloss.com/ar.....a-why

STUDY: An estimated 43% of US children (32 million) currently have at least 1 of 20 chronic health conditions assessed, increasing to 54.1% when overweight, obesity, or being at risk for developmental delays are included; 19.2% (14.2 million) have conditions resulting in a special health care need, a 1.6 point increase since 2003. https://www.sciencedirect.com/.....02500



ADHD: CDC: Nearly 1 in 10 Kids Has ADHD https://www.webmd.com/add-adhd.....dhd#1

Approximately 1 in 26 People in the United States Will Develop Epilepsy https://www.epilepsy.com/make-.....ells.


Autism cases in U.S. jump to 1 in 45

The report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and National Center for Health Statistics shows that the prevalence of autism in children ages 3 to 17 went up about 80 percent from 2011-2013 to 2014. Instead of 1 in 80 (or 1.25 percent) children having autism -- a number that has alarmed public health officials in recent years and strained state and school system resources -- researchers now estimate that the prevalence is now 1 in 45 (or 2.24 percent).

https://www.washingtonpost.com.....arts/

Tourette Syndrome Studies that included children with diagnosed and undiagnosed TS have estimated that 1 of every 162 children (0.6%) have TS. https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/tourette/data.html

Diabetes The risk of type 1 diabetes in the general population is reported to be approximately 1 in 400...Diabetes is an increasing concern within the U.S. and around the world. Its remarkable growth rate has reached an epidemic proportion in recent years. While most cases of diabetes diagnosed in the U.S. are type 2 diabetes, the number of cases of type 1 diabetes is increasing. https://www.powerpak.com/cours.....18947

Correlation, not causation
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LovesHashem




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 12:33 pm
I'm far from an anti vaxxer but the COVID vaccine will definitely be rushed and I'd be wary of it. Not sure what I'll do when it comes out. I wonder if it will be mandatory in Israel.
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amother
Silver


 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 12:34 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
In 1986, pharmaceutical Industry got IMMUNITY from LIABILITY Law Suits. CDC QUADRUPLED (4x)
the Vaccine Schedule - and keep increasing. We have the Sickest Generation in History!

1:6 children are learning disabled

1:6 children are allergic (can be FATAL)

1:8 children have IBS

1:10 children have ADHD

1:13 children have asthma (can be FATAL)

1:25 have Epilepsy/Seizure Disorder

1:45 children have AUTISM and rate keeps increasing

1:250 children have Tourettes Syndrome

1:400 children have Diabetes

1:775 babies die of SIDS

1:1,000 children have Celiac Disease

1:5,560 children have CANCER

ZERO deaths from Measles, Mumps or Chickenpox (in USA)

432 deaths following vaccination reported to VAERS in 2016

There are so many other possible reasons for this. Technology, availability and mass consumption of fast food culture, over diagnosis, different demands on learning and other things could be causing the disorders you mention. How do you know that it’s the result of vaccinations?

What we do know is that Polio, Measles, Hepatitis and other fatal diseases have significantly gone down (where you barely ever see it) because of vaccines.

Did you ever think that all these disorders are becoming more prevalent because children aren’t dying in mass number before they reach the age of 4 because of modern medicine?
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#BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 12:37 pm
bananas4bananas wrote:
Correlation, not causation


Yes there IS correlation between quadrupling vaccine schedule in 1990 and skyrocketing of
chronic disease in children - Billions $$$ for the pharmaceutical industry!

The only way to prove correlation is with a Vax vs UnVax Study - which the CDC and pharmaceutical
industry REFUSES to do.

Doesn't that bother you, bananas?
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amother
Silver


 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 12:39 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
Yes there IS correlation between quadrupling vaccine schedule in 1990 and skyrocketing of
chronic disease in children - Billions $$$ for the pharmaceutical industry!

The only way to prove correlation is with a Vax vs UnVax Study - which the CDC and pharmaceutical
industry REFUSES to do.

Doesn't that bother you, bananas?

No, because it would not be an ethical study.
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#BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 12:41 pm
bananas4bananas wrote:
Correlation, not causation


bananas, for over 30 years, the TOBACCO INDUSTRY denied that smoking causes cancer!

And the Tobacco Industry hired SCIENTISTS to DENY that smoking causes cancer chanting

"Correlation does not prove causation"

But SMOKER VS NON-SMOKER studies PROVED Causation!

but US Government and Pharmacuetical Industry refuse to do the study, Vax vs UnVax,
that will PROVE causation!

[I]Doesn't that bother you, even a Little, People??????[/I]
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Java




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 12:41 pm
amother [ Silver ] wrote:
No, because it would not be an ethical study.

Agreed. Same reason why there hasn't been conclusive studies done on how alcohol affects a fetus during pregnancy
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#BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 12:56 pm
amother [ Silver ] wrote:
No, because it would not be an ethical study.


bananas4bananas wrote:
Agreed. Same reason why there hasn't been conclusive studies done on how alcohol affects a fetus during pregnancy


Why would a RETROSPECTIVE study comparing health outcomes of vaxxed vs unvaxxed children
be unethical?


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amother
Apricot


 

Post Mon, Oct 26 2020, 12:56 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
In 1986, pharmaceutical Industry got IMMUNITY from LIABILITY Law Suits. CDC QUADRUPLED (4x)
the Vaccine Schedule - and keep increasing. We have the Sickest Generation in History!

1:6 children are learning disabled

1:6 children are allergic (can be FATAL)

1:8 children have IBS

1:10 children have ADHD

1:13 children have asthma (can be FATAL)

1:25 have Epilepsy/Seizure Disorder

1:45 children have AUTISM and rate keeps increasing

1:250 children have Tourettes Syndrome

1:400 children have Diabetes

1:775 babies die of SIDS

1:1,000 children have Celiac Disease

1:5,560 children have CANCER

ZERO deaths from Measles, Mumps or Chickenpox (in USA)

432 deaths following vaccination reported to VAERS in 2016



Any child that doesn't read fluently, and doesn't get top marks on tests, immediately after being taught, is today considered learning disabled. Some 30 years ago, these kids got tutors once or twice a week and life went on. They weren't labeled. Today, they get government sponsored tutors, so why not get them labeled instead of paying it out of pocket?

Today, many, many children with any communication/development issues will be labeled autistic. Even if they absolutely do not have autism! Doctors often say "let's put them on the spectrum so they can get services easily". 15 years ago, when I was working in the field of special ed, a child that can communicate was NEVER called autistic! Now, any child that is socially off is called autistic. Including a relative of mine that has OCD & anxiety, caused by a very abusive upbringing. He was PERFECTLY FINE until teenage years! After a 2.5 hour evaluation by a top notch psychiatrist, the Dr. said he has OCD, anxiety...let's just put him on the spectrum, so he can get the help he needs. And I know a number of such cases.
I also have a cousin in his 50's that was labeled Mentally retarted as a child. Today he lives in a group-home. After meeting him for the first time during the years I was working in the special ed field, I couldn't help but notice the fact that today he would, without a doubt, be called autistic. But in those days, if he could speak, no way was he autistic!
A woman in my community talks about vaccines and her daughter's autism. she says although she didn't see an overnight regression like some others claim to have seen, he daughter's autism was diagnosed a few weeks after shots. Ummm....when her daughter was born, HUNDREDS of people were davening for the little baby girl born with hydrocephalies-fluid around the brain-which caused brain damage. She was in intensive therepy since she left the hospital after her brain surgery. Her mother later told me "we got her the autistic diagnosis, so we could get her into the autism program, since they have great therapists."
And then we wonder why the rates have increased so drastically!
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