Black People Exempt from Mandatory Vaccine

Rappel

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:26 pm

simcha2 wrote:

This is clearly not what it says.

It doesn't offer BIPOC students an exemption. It addresses their discomfort given the history or forced medical procedures.

"Other exemption (for *FLU VACCINATION* requirement only): Ithaca students with other concerns / extenuating circumstances may request an exemption from the Fall 2020 flu vaccination requirement that is part of the university's COVID-19 Behavioral Compact. (Learn more about why Cornell is requiring flu vaccination for students.) Students who identify as Black, Indigenous, or as a Person of Color (BIPOC) may have personal concerns about fulfilling the Compact requirements based on historical injustices and current events, and may find this information helpful in considering an exemption."

Basically, for exemptions, other than medical or religious, you need to special request. And realizing that historical fear may be a reason for some people the give info, encouraging them not to seek an exemption.

They are certainly not being offered a blanket exemption.

From the website (go Big Red)

The aforementioned inequities and injustices may lead some individuals to have reservations about testing and immunization, yet it is also important to acknowledge the critical role these measures play in protecting community health and well-being. In fact, they are likely to be especially helpful for BIPOC communities. For example, annual influenza vaccination is recommended for every individual 6 months or older who does not have medical contraindications, as it is the best way to help protect against flu. The vaccine has been shown to reduce the risk of flu illnesses, hospitalizations, and flu-related deaths. Those who get the vaccine not only protect themselves, but also the people around them who may be more vulnerable to serious flu illness, including infants, older adults, and those with underlying health conditions. They are designed to help students stay safe, and they are part of the quality health care students can access while on campus. We strongly recommend that students comply with these requirements. At the same time, we understand that someone may know the science and still feel distrusting of health care and may have addition questions.

I find this policy extremely condescending. "Just in case you guys have an irrational, emotional reaction to science, here, let me explain the same science Slooooowly and Sim-p-lee so you get it this time." Like really???? Give a POC some credit here.

#BestBubby

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:31 pm

amother [ Coffee ] wrote:

Saying a group "may find this information helpful in considering an exemption" is not the same thing as saying that group is exempt. They still have to request an exemption.

Stop trying to deny the obvious.

Many "exemptions" require one to request an exemption, including religious exemptions,
philosophical exemptions and medical exemptions.

Black people and other "people of color" are entitled to an exemption that white people are
not entitled to because of their race!

How is this not racist????

How is this not discrimination against white people???

simcha2

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:34 pm

Rappel wrote:

When one has radiation for cancer treatment they frequently need a tattoo to mark the spot.
Imagine if hospital literature had a section for Jews. We know that historically tattoos have not only been a religious concern, but with the forced tattooing during the Holocaust, we know that for some Jewish people the idea of being tattooed is painful and reminiscent of forced torture and genocide. This makes, what is already an emotionally difficult time, even harder.We are sensitive to this and we'd like to explain the need for your continued medical care etc etc.

That is not being condescending, it is validating someone else's experience.

#BestBubby

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:35 pm

simcha2 wrote:

No, they aren't.

They see recognizing that some BIPOC students may want to request an exemption based on history and are discouraging them from doing so, while simultaneously validating their experience.

Please show where they are "clearly offering an exemption based on race".

The fact that Cornell states Black People may request an EXEMPTION based on their race.

If the University were not going to offer EXEMPTIONS based on their "fears" then the University
would not use the word "EXEMPTION".

Folks, do you see how certain groups twist themselves into pretzels to deny the obvious?

Because they have to defend leftist racism!

pause

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:35 pm

simcha2 wrote:

Semantics.
Black people can get an exemption based on emotions while white people can only get one based on science/medical reasons.

Why you aren't outraged at this distinction is the bigger question here because my blood is boiling.

amother

White

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:36 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

Lots of poc are religious, so they qualify for a religious exemption if they have one. But to say they can get an exemption based simply on race is discrimination. Not sure why people have a hard time understanding this concept of race based discrimination.

amother

Pumpkin

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:41 pm

The Black community has been historically wary of vaccines and public health because of the Tuskegee Syphilis Study- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.....Study
Black men were enrolled in a study and being told they were getting free health care. Some of them had latent syphilis, so they were being studied how it affected people when it was untreated. This was 1932-1972. Syphilis is fairly simple to treat - antibiotics, and nobody gave the subjects any or told them they had syphilis

.
This is probably why the exemption is being given.

simcha2

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:42 pm

pause wrote:

Plenty of people would say a religious exemption is based on emotion or choice. (I see you carefully omitted that from your post).

Why should I be outraged by this? Acknowledging a reluctance to vaccinate, encouraging people to vaccinate anyway.

BTW, it doesn't limit who can ask for a special exemption, nor does it say it will be granted.

#BestBubby

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:44 pm

amother [ Pumpkin ] wrote:

I think the Tuskegee Syphilis Study is enough to scare people of ALL RACES from trusting the
government.

NOBODY should be FORCED to be vaccinated or any other medical procedure against their will.

#BestBubby

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:47 pm

simcha2 wrote:

Again trying to deny the obvious.

Only "people of color" can request an exemption based on their "racial history".

And the University would not use the word EXEMPTION if they were not going to grant them.

If it was only "acknowledgment" of their fears then the University would say we will have medical
personnel re-assure you that the vaccine is "safe and effective" without using the word EXEMPTION!

simcha2

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:53 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

You are clearly not open to any interpretation than the one you assign. This whole post is designed to mislead, from the forum it is in (this whole thing only applies to the flu vaccine, nothing to do with covid), to the reading of text that simply isn't there.

You want to feel victimized, go ahead.

But this whole situation doesn't hurt you. Cornell acknowledging a history of medical abuse and inequality, doesn't take anything away from you.

Cornell encouraging flu vaccines doesn't hurt you.

Cornell allowing BIPOC students to apply for an exemption (whether they get one or not) doesn't hurt you. The same way your applying for a religious exemption doesn't take anything away from anyone else.

What is it with the need to be a victim?

#BestBubby

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:53 pm

If a mother had a healthy child die or develop autism after a vaccine, that mother cannot get her
other children exempted from vaccination - not a medical exemption and not an exemption due
to her "fears" because of her "tragic history".

That mother just has to suck it up.

But if Black People have "fears" of vaccination, then Black People get an exemption.

Does this seem fair to you?

Because some people are trying to defend this racist policy.

#BestBubby

Tue, Dec 08 2020, 12:55 pm

simcha2 wrote:

If people are given a privilege based ON RACE that does not effect anybody????

Did you actually say that??? Can't Believe It