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People can decide on their own if a position or a salary is beneath them..why decide for them?
And second of all, is 60k such a pathetic salary that someone over 30 shouldn't even consider it? Obviously many people make more, but thats hardly minimum wage.
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Thu, Dec 17 2020, 8:25 pm
I agree with the boss. It doesn’t sound like a job for someone older. Doing lots of physical labor for that pay is hard and pretty demeaning , especially if the person had a more prestigious position before. (50-60K is bubkes in the grand scheme of things, with today’s expenses when you have a family)
But there might be a 50 yr old out there , who is strong, doesn’t need to earn more and is eager to do something like this .So don’t nix them all.
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Thu, Dec 17 2020, 8:26 pm
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I strongly disagree with your boss. If the candidates are equally fit for the job, let them decide whether or not the salary is too low for them. He shouldn't be making that call for them.
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dorothy1
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Thu, Dec 17 2020, 8:27 pm
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I agree with you and your boss is also doing something illegal.
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notshanarishona
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Thu, Dec 17 2020, 8:30 pm
(1) I assume it's the boss's choice? What's your position? Is he asking your opinion? Otherwise, keep quiet..
(2) 50-60K is not a small salary depending on what the job is. Age and gender should not be the deciding factors but again unless someone is planning to sue for discrimination the boss is in charge.
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Redbird
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Thu, Dec 17 2020, 8:31 pm
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Maybe he looks at the position as entree level, and he doesn't understand why someone ambitious and 30+ would look for something entry level?
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thunderstorm
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Thu, Dec 17 2020, 8:35 pm
| Redbird wrote: | | Maybe he looks at the position as entree level, and he doesn't understand why someone ambitious and 30+ would look for something entry level? |
I see it the same way
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amother
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Thu, Dec 17 2020, 8:36 pm
It's a small company with no HR department. He doesn't really care about employment laws, nobody will ever know why they weren't hired or called for an interview. He's not advertising "job for male under the age of 30 only".
I'm the one who's screening the resumes, which is why the conversation came up. He values my opinion, but he's the one with the final decision.
The way I see it, it's not a large salary, but it's definitely decent. You can't support a family on that much money, but if the wife is also making in that range, it's definitely doable. I think he should interview whoever sounds qualified, offer the job to the best candidate, and let him decide if he wants the job at that salary.
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Redbird
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Thu, Dec 17 2020, 8:39 pm
If the job is say 50k for 50 hrs, that's like $20/hr for physical labor. That's not high...
OTOH, if it's 60k for 40 hrs that's a big difference
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zaq
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Thu, Dec 17 2020, 11:36 pm
| amother [ Fuchsia ] wrote: | | I think your boss doesn't know much about employment law. |
Make that doesn’t know anything. It’s illegal to discriminate based on age or gender or marital status or family size. Your boss better make darn sure he interviews people of all ages and genders and family configurations before he gets slapped with a discrim suit. And it’s not for him to decide that the salary is s an insult. If a qualified individual applies, it’s the applicant’s decision. Yes, even if it’s a forty-five year old mother of twelve. If she can do the job, she can do the job, period. And if a twenty-two year old single man can’t do the job, he can’t, period.
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amother
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Thu, Dec 17 2020, 11:59 pm
While its great that you are compassionate and feel for others, many bosses dont understand how it is for ppl desperate for work, and as you stated, your boss never struggled financially so he surely doesn't understand.
And, while he probably knows he's violating the laws by discriminating, most bosses, unfortunately, discriminate, like your boss is doing, and most ppl dont get caught because it's hard to get enough "proof".
So, I'm not saying it's okay, but unfortunately, it's the reality among the bosses I've worked for, and I'm saying this as a worker that's disgusted and sick of how the majority of bosses have no compassion and dont follow laws that they dont want to...but its hashems world, and it seems like the bad ones always "win"(as you said yourself, your boss never struggled, yet he's clearly discriminating...)
This is why I always wonder if its possible to be a decent "mensch " boss, as your boss knows he doesn't want to be guilted into paying a man who has to support a family more $, and he knows that choosing someone other than a young, unmarried...will not yield as much energy, stamina, etc....because with a family, one has other responsibilities which affects workers, and the boss knows he needs the work done for the business......I'm still wondering how its possible to be "good" to ppl and "good" for the business...
I'd be surprised if your boss listens to you in this area, but it's good to try...
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