Covid has 99% recovery rate

LovesHashem

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 7:34 am

amother [ Peach ] wrote:

I’m speaking for the USA, I live here so I can’t talk for other countries:

In the beginning Covid was out of hand.
We all locked down willingly.
We were all diligent about the rules.

After a few months, while every death and every side effect is still terrible, it became more and more obvious how much of this is politicized.
It’s a year later, the country is in shambles, some cities more extreme than others, and yes, I have to say that more lives are ruined from the year of government control, than from Covid itself.
And we are nowhere near finished.

So op, without mentioning the 99 recovery rate, yes, your question is very valid.

The rules don’t make sense.
Casinos, packed airplanes, theaters, all ok.

Stores, shuls, gyms, restaurants, nope.

I don't live in the USA and I don't take my medical advice about what precautions to take from politicians who get paid millions of dollars.

I ask local doctors I trust.

amother

Pewter

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 7:39 am

FranticFrummie wrote:

Because for many people, "recovery" does not mean a return to pre-Covid baseline health. Some people (including me) will never be the same again.

Because THIS still happens, and it could be YOU. It could be any of us.

https://jewishmom.com/2021/01/.....tion/

I saw my friend had forwarded me a heartbreaking video, a young father pleading with us to pray and do good deeds in the merit of his wife (Rochel Naomi bat Esther Chana, daughter of Rabbi Wieden from Neve Yerushalayim) a mother of 5 in her early thirties who is critically ill from Covid. She was pregnant and underwent an emergency C-section, and now her 6th child whom she was carrying is in critical condition as well (Rach haNolad ben Rochel Naomi).
The light at the end of the tunnel so close and yet so very far away. Please Hashem, save us and protect us all.

Have you seen the video?
https://drive.google.com/file/...../view

FranticFrummie

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 7:41 am

amother [ Apricot ] wrote:

The measurement we are looking for at this point is what % of flu hospitalization rates does the world have yearly vs what percent of covid hospitalization rates do we have at hand. Any other measurements make absolutely no sense unless you are selling something.

And I do not think any of those numbers are published at all even though they would be the easiest to tally and most accurate.

Going by hospitalization rates is meaningless, because some people die at home before they can even call for help. Some hospitals and small and understaffed, and turn people away. Even hospitals in huge urban areas can get swamped and run out of beds. We've seen all of this happen, all over the world.

In the early days in Wuhan, there were pictures leaked that showed fully PPE equipped workers gathering up people who had died while waiting in line to get into the ER. People were literally dropping dead in the streets. None of them could be counted as a "hospital admittance."

The CDC tracks both flu and Covid statistics by country, age, and mortality.

I don't have a head for statistics, so if you want to take a stab at it, the info is all online.

amother

Hotpink

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 7:51 am

amother [ Peach ] wrote:

This is simply false. No you did not all lock down, willingly or otherwise. Following the rules is meaningless when some states simply had no rules. There were no barriers between states, between those trying to isolate and those who didn't care a bit about COVID. There were state leaders refusing to shut anything, making a show about eating publicly in restaurants. That's why it kept on spreading and it's taking forever to get under control.

Your president at first implied COVID was a hoax, then made it seem like taking cautionary measures was questionably helpful, then didn't have any organised federal response in place, then had the federal government appropriate PPEs away from states while saying it was each state's responsibility to fend for itself. Then he got COVID himself, got the best healthcare for himself (which is btw paid for with US taxes, aka socialised healthcare), then made it seem like COVID is no big deal.

It's terrible that there was no organised response and therefore some people put in all the work to stay safe while people around them spread the virus and kept it circulating.

I agree that it's crazy that some places like casinos and movie theatres are open (if they are) when COVID is circulating. That doesn't mean the other places should be open too.

amother

Peach

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 7:54 am

amother [ Hotpink ] wrote:

Blame the president great.
He doesn’t have power over every governor in our country you know.

amother

Hotpink

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 8:02 am

amother [ Peach ] wrote:

Blame the president great.
He doesn’t have power over every governor in our country you know.

He actually does have the power to enact an organised federal response in the event of a national disaster. You know how the federal goes in to help states during hurricanes? How about during wartime?

On top of that, the US federal government has broad powers to interfere and take authority over things that affect interstate commerce. It's called the interstate commerce clause. Look it up. It's what gives the federal government the authority to arrest marijuana growers in California even after the state, and yes their governor, legalised it. I can't think of anything in our history that has affected interstate commerce in the US more than COVID did. The federal government had the power to organise a response if they wanted to, they just didn't want to. It was probably too difficult because it required more work than could be fit into a tweet. So blame the states and their governors.

Ema of 5

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 8:16 am

FranticFrummie wrote:

Remember that "recovered" is just another way of saying "congratulations, you're not dead."

https://www.cdc.gov/coronaviru.....toms.

Long-Term Effects of COVID-19
Updated Nov. 13, 2020

The most commonly reported long-term symptoms include:

Fatigue
Shortness of breath
Cough
Joint pain
Chest pain

Other reported long-term symptoms include:

Difficulty with thinking and concentration (sometimes referred to as “brain fog”)
Depression
Muscle pain
Headache
Intermittent fever
Fast-beating or pounding heart (also known as heart palpitations)
More serious long-term complications appear to be less common but have been reported. These have been noted to affect different organ systems in the body.

These include:

Cardiovascular: inflammation of the heart muscle
Respiratory: lung function abnormalities
Renal: acute kidney injury
Dermatologic: rash, hair loss
Neurological: smell and taste problems, sleep issues, difficulty with concentration, memory problems
Psychiatric: depression, anxiety, changes in mood
The long-term significance of these effects is not yet known. CDC will continue active investigation and provide updates as new data emerge, which can inform COVID-19 clinical care as well as the public health response to COVID-19.

Preventing COVID-19
The best way to prevent these long-term complications is to prevent COVID-19. The best strategies for preventing COVID-19 infection in youth and adults are to wear a mask in public places, stay at least 6 feet away from other people, frequently wash your hands, and avoid crowds and confined or poorly ventilated spaces.

I was specifically responding to the person who said it was a made up number and you can google it. I’m not getting involved in the rest of the discussion.

amother

Royalblue

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 8:28 am

amother [ Hotpink ] wrote:

^^^^^ This. And this is why he is going to disappear into history on Wednesday. He bet on the wrong team when it came to covid.

amother

Forestgreen

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 8:54 am

Duggie wrote:

Why in the HECK are our lives totally turned upside down for something that has 1% morbidity.

WHY

WHY

WHY

Because the lomg lasting effects has got a lot of people very nervous.
Women in my community in their low 40s, now with lasting heart problems.
Lung scarring, organ damage lo aleinu.

Not to mention the scary studies from Israel showing sperm and testicular cell damage consistant with infertility in males (and it was a large percentage of their sampling!). They hope its reversible but dont know for sure, and will be monitoring them for years.

Because people survive, but may ch"v develop long term complications.
Thats why.

southernbubby

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 9:15 am

amother [ Natural ] wrote:

What bothers me is the government’s continued warnings to wear masks and socially distance , but I haven’t seen any US medical gov official recommend taking vitamin D which research has shown will make the Covid cases much more mild . It may be much more effective than mask wearing ( I do wear masks).

I agree with this but it may mean opening free clinics so that the uninsured and underinsured can get blood work and receive the proper medications for vitamin D deficiency and other disorders that make people more vulnerable to the virus. We can't assume that poor people who don't eat properly are spending money on vitamin pills as well as the fact that some places are food and pharmacy desserts.

amother

Ivory

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 9:24 am

amother [ Apricot ] wrote:

America had 34,200 flu deaths in the 2018-2019 flu season.

America had 398,000 covid deaths so far.