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 Mon, Jan 18 2021, 3:08 pm
We have 4 kids and they all want a pet! DH and I really are not into pets, but if any, I would get rabbits. I feel like if I get a pet, I want it to be cute, so that would be a dog, a cat or a rabbit for me.
We have a 3 bedroom apt with a large living room and space, size about 4 sq m. After doing research, I have been thinking that they would either have their space in the living room or this space. The problem is, the living room is very lively and this small space is pretty dark. Is it ok if they stay in there for the most part of a weekday, in a darkish space? Or do they need light? Will I have to install additional light jn there?
I keep hearing that living outside is better for them but an apartment works too...
We would let them out to play jn other rooms too, of course...
Next, what did you do about spaying? Did you get an already spayed/neutered animal or is there a loophole how to have them spayed while you own them?
We want to have a boy and a girl, is it enough to just spay a boy or should both be fixed?
Do you touch your bunnies on shabbes? I heard so many conflicting opinions about it.
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Zehava
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Mon, Jan 18 2021, 3:11 pm
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Don’t do it if you’re not into pets. Really don’t.
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Mon, Jan 18 2021, 3:13 pm
| Zehava wrote: | | Don’t do it if you’re not into pets. Really don’t. |
Echoing this. A pet, even a caged pet, is something you MUST really want. Not just your kids. I am a pet lover and owner and I promise you, if you are doing it just for your kids, you will deeply regret it.
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Mon, Jan 18 2021, 3:19 pm
| amother [ Azure ] wrote: | Rabbits are not fun pets for first time pet owners. Many have biting temprements and don't like being held. Kids tire of them pretty fast. Cat or dog is much easier to go smoothly. Cats are easiest. Certain breeds like cuddling others like playing.
Every one I know who got a rabbit got rid of it within about a year. |
The above is very true. Our bunny lasted a week and a half at hour house. She was a biter. And kids were not so into it. Such dull animals. Sorry to all the bunny lovers out there, but cats are much smarter, and more affectionate. But they are very moody and destroy your furniture for kicks. Dogs are about as much work as another child. So take your pick.
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Mon, Jan 18 2021, 3:23 pm
Fully agree with Zehava and watergirl - as much as your kids beg and you think it could be cute, it's not worth it if you're not into it - it's a real commitment that may be fun and new in the beginning, but you will come to regret it.
Azure, not sure where you're getting your info, but I know several very happy rabbit owners (including myself). While it's true that many rabbits don't enjoy being forced to sit still and be petted for a large amount of time, they absolutely love playing, and kids love that. After tiring themselves out playing, most rabbits will lay quietly and enjoy a rub too. Also, if your rabbit is biting, you're doing something wrong.
It is true though that cats are probably the lowest-maintenance pet to get.
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Mon, Jan 18 2021, 3:25 pm
I wouldn't get a rabbit. If you let them wander around the house freely, they leave those brown pellets everywhere, which is pretty gross. And if you leave them in a cage or small dark enclosed area for 20 hours out of 24 hours a day - well, that is incredibly cruel. Tza'ar ba'alei chaim doesn't begin to describe it.
As others said, only adopt a pet if you are really into pets.
I have had rabbits, cats and dogs and each one comes with its own challenges. But a rabbit was our big mistake. They are not that much fun, so after a few weeks the kids tire of playing with them, and you need a large area for them to run around or it's plain cruel.
Cats - only adopt if you don't mind in the least if they climb your counters/ couch/table. And if some family members enjoy cuddling with them.
Dog- a lot of work, but for us was the best. Our dog doesn't climb where he's not allowed, and he's a good companion.
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Siriusly?
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Mon, Jan 18 2021, 3:32 pm
| amother [ Firebrick ] wrote: | I wouldn't get a rabbit. If you let them wander around the house freely, they leave those brown pellets everywhere, which is pretty gross. And if you leave them in a cage or small dark enclosed area for 20 hours out of 24 hours a day - well, that is incredibly cruel. Tza'ar ba'alei chaim doesn't begin to describe it.
As others said, only adopt a pet if you are really into pets.
I have had rabbits, cats and dogs and each one comes with its own challenges. But a rabbit was our big mistake. They are not that much fun, so after a few weeks the kids tire of playing with them, and you need a large area for them to run around or it's plain cruel.
Cats - only adopt if you don't mind in the least if they climb your counters/ couch/table. And if some family members enjoy cuddling with them.
Dog- a lot of work, but for us was the best. Our dog doesn't climb where he's not allowed, and he's a good companion. |
Just saying, this issue is easily solvable by litter training your rabbit. It's so easy and so effective. Most people are unaware that rabbits are actually highly intelligent animals and can interact really well with humans - kids included. They can be trained to perform all sorts of tricks etc...
OP - if you decide you are 100% ready for the commitment, you can pm me for more rabbit info.
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Mon, Jan 18 2021, 3:48 pm
| Siriusly? wrote: | Just saying, this issue is easily solvable by litter training your rabbit. It's so easy and so effective. Most people are unaware that rabbits are actually highly intelligent animals and can interact really well with humans - kids included. They can be trained to perform all sorts of tricks etc...
OP - if you decide you are 100% ready for the commitment, you can pm me for more rabbit info. |
My friend had a therapy bunny. That rabbit was almost human, loved her to pieces, and it lived for a good decade.
But many domesticated bunnies are, unfortunately, boring. You have to pick the curious one out of the crowd.
Regarding cats and countertops - there are plenty of ways to train that out of them too. Our own Elfrida had the best tip though: cover your counters/table with upside down aluminium pans every night for two weeks. The cats will never touch your counters again.
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Mon, Jan 18 2021, 3:51 pm
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We have had a number of pets and we found the bunnies to be the most difficult to care for. Their cages get dirty really fast And no one really wanted to do it. Luckily we were able to find it a good home. We have a cat and I find them to be the best animals for kids and the easiest to care for. They are very easy to litter box train. I grew up with dogs but I'm really loving having a cat. She really does love everyone although she does need time alone too.The only way I get my 6-year-old to get up in the morning is to bring her in to cuddle with him. Obviously not encouraging you to get any animal that you don't want and can't take care of but just saying what animal was the best for us after trying a few
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Mon, Jan 18 2021, 3:51 pm
| amother [ OP ] wrote: | Thank you! My pick is another child... We are ttc for ages and I feel like if we had a baby, they would stop wanting pets.
The more I read about bunnies, the more I wanted to have one, but we were not actively dying to get one...
PS: Before you judge, we want a baby for real and not as a "pet" but kids definitely want something feel like both options would be something cute to play with... |
Ah.
I know so many people whom took on a puppy/kitten right when they were TTC/early pregnant. They were following their instincts, and guided by their hormones. As soon as a real baby was born though, any love or enjoyment of their pets melted away, and all that work was suddenly a nuisance.
Considering your stage, and the fact that you're not really inclined to animal care in general, I would consider whether you really just want a baby and are trying to fill that need before you bring in an animal which needs work, training, and attention.
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Mon, Jan 18 2021, 4:03 pm
| Rappel wrote: |
Regarding cats and countertops - there are plenty of ways to train that out of them too. Our own Elfrida had the best tip though: cover your counters/table with upside down aluminium pans every night for two weeks. The cats will never touch your counters again. |
I tried this, and for two weeks I was awakened in the middle of the night my the pans crashing to the floor as my kitty knocked them over. It was such a good idea... but it didn't work in this house.
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Mon, Jan 18 2021, 4:03 pm
| Rappel wrote: |
Regarding cats and countertops - there are plenty of ways to train that out of them too. Our own Elfrida had the best tip though: cover your counters/table with upside down aluminium pans every night for two weeks. The cats will never touch your counters again. |
It sounds like a good idea, but unfortunately I can't take credit for it. I've never even heard of that one, let alone tried it.
I just keep a few spray bottles of water around the kitchen and shpritz any cat who is looking speculativly at the counters or the table. They hate being wet, and learn the rules very quickly. Now I only have to pick up a bottle and they innocently saunter off in the other direction.
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