Massive amounts of homeless people being moved to Boro Park

amother

Cerise

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:21 pm

elsily wrote:

If any of you were ever cv’s homeless, how would you feel about your new neighbors saying this about you? That was my point. You don’t want it said about you, you don’t want it said about Jews, but it’s ok to say about another group of people because you’re not personally involved? Gross.

Seriously???

Your logic is very, very flawed and if you don't understand why I'm afraid I won't be able to explain it to you.

watergirl

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:22 pm

So, the heimishe landlords purchased apartments from Maimonides? As in, the hospital? Why couldn't they find tenants on their own? Is this in the frum part of BP? And now the landlords are trying to recoup part of their money by selling to the city?

Please help me understand what was the issue that made it so the landlords could not find tenants. If I understand correctly, apartments are at a premium there.

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amother

Seashell

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:22 pm

elsily wrote:

Again, these are not families down on their luck. Reread all the previous posts. You have fake rachmanus. These type of homeless people should NOT be placed in a family friendly neighborhood.

amother

Seashell

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:24 pm

watergirl wrote:

So, the heimishe landlords purchased apartments from my Maimonides? As in, the hospital? Why couldn't they find tenants on their own?

For the most part the apartments are not it a very good condition. To rent it out to the neighborhood people they would have to fix it up. And they are probably getting a ton of money from the city...

Ema of 5

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:24 pm

elsily wrote:

Are you personally invoplved? I have no problem with the homeless, I have no problem with other ethnicities. I have an issue with lumping them all together in one place. As someone else said, these are not your run of the mill, down in their luck homeless people. Many are criminals and/or mentally ill. I will no longer be going to smachot at my husband’s proffered shul. I will be keeping a much closer eye on my children when they are outside. I will definitely be thinking two or three or four times before letting my kids walk around the neighborhood, even just around the block.

thunderstorm

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:24 pm

amother [ Coral ] wrote:

Unless you have lived in such a situation you don't understand the implications. Yes in an ideal world giving housing to homeless is a good thing. But the reality is that it makes the neighborhood very dangerous. A lot of the homeless people that are given housing are mentally unstable and will roam around stealing things, yelling at or even hurting children, standing in front of cars, etc. Bring homeless housing a residential area with many children is unsafe and unfair to the residents

I grew next to a building like that in BP. Let’s just say our property always had needles and syringes that were tossed by these individuals after they shot themselves up with heroine and cocaine. Some of them were so high sometimes , they’d come outside completely naked. No undies at all. There were drunks passed out on the sidewalk in the front of our house. These are the types of people living in those buildings. I knew each one of these people on a first name basis. They would talk to us and befriend us. My mother would go crazy. As a young child we were unaware of how seriously dangerous these people actually were.

amother

Red

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:31 pm

Here’s a taste of what happens when the city moves the homeless in.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/w......html

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elsily

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:33 pm

Other than the statement that the governor emptied jails and psychiatric institutions, where are you getting this idea that everyone who will live here is straight out of jail or a psych hospital? Unless there’s some valid source saying this, then you’re making a blanket statement about homeless people being dangerous and on drugs. I volunteered at a shelter for women, serving them dinner. You know how many of them showed up in office clothing, straight from their jobs, with their small children? Asking for pads and tampons because they couldn’t afford? Yeah, I guess people like that don’t deserve housing in your neighborhood.

amother

Coral

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:33 pm

elsily wrote:

Have you read any of the above posts?
The issue is not that they are homeless. The issue is that they are dangerous. And arguing with that is arguing with actual numbers and statistics. The reality is that homeless housing brings up the violent crime in the neighborhood and the citizens of the neighborhood have every right to protest it

amother

Pewter

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:34 pm

elsily wrote:

Elsily, do you live in Boro Park? Would.you be ok with this happening on your block?

And you can't compare it to Jews. When a large group of Jews move into a neighborhood, they are generally not addicted to drugs and alcohol. While Jews may make neighborhoods more crowded, they do not make neighborhoods unsafe

elsily

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:35 pm

amother [ Coral ] wrote:

Yes I replied to that and asked for a source that all these people are from jail.
Every citizen in the US has a right to protest for any reason. That doesn’t mean their reasoning is right.

amother

Azure

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:38 pm

elsily wrote:

Yes I replied to that and asked for a source that all these people are from jail.
Every citizen in the US has a right to protest for any reason. That doesn’t mean their reasoning is right.

Are you purposely [not understanding]?
Only on imamother do you see misplaced rachmanus. If you want to come across as holier than thou, this isn't the right place for it.

watergirl

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:39 pm

amother [ Seashell ] wrote:

So the landlords are the ones to blame. Not the city. The heimishe landlords are unwilling to fix up their own properties and therefor cant find tenants. And everyone is mad at the city.

elsily

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:40 pm

amother [ Pewter ] wrote:

My point about comparing it to Jews is that people, incorrectly, make blanket statements and assumptions about groups of people. I don’t live in BP but I have lived in housing with previously homeless neighbors and they were harmless. I have worked in areas with lots of homeless people, volunteered at a shelter, and it’s sad to see assumptions that they are all addicted to drugs and dangerous. Many homeless people spend their entire lives without housing because they can’t overcome the stigma even when housing is offered to them.

amother

Amethyst

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:41 pm

amother [ Seashell ] wrote:

What?

Yidden are very resourceful, and if they see such an opportunity there are some that might try to get cheap housing through legit or illegit ways.

It’s probably wrong, but better for the community.

elsily

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:42 pm

amother [ Azure ] wrote:

Are you purposely making yourself dumb or are you really lacking reading comprehension skills?
Only on imamother do you see misplaced rachmanus. If you want to come across as holier than thou, this isn't the right place for it.

You are quite rude, but maybe it’s easy to be like that when you’re anonymous?

amother

Azure

Mon, Jan 18 2021, 5:43 pm

elsily wrote:

Again, we're not talking about homeless people that lost their jobs. We're talking about criminals mentally ill people and drug addicts that belong in prison or the psychiatric hospital but were let out on the streets now during covid. Do you understand now??