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Fri, Feb 12 2021, 8:56 am
It means that there is a low level of antibodies, but not enough for them to consider you safe from infection.
The first vaccine does not give an exemption from bidud. That is only a week after the second vaccine.
People who have done the vaccine are not meant to be doing antibody tests anyway. I didn't read the full email we got about it, but some of the proteins used in the vaccine mess up antibody test kits, so the results aren't accurate anyway.
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Fri, Feb 12 2021, 9:05 am
They shouldn't have pushed for the tests. If they've done the first round of the chisun, none if them are going to be accurate.
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Fri, Feb 12 2021, 9:09 am
No, you're not allowed to break bidud for a vaccine. If she ends up.testing positive, she won't need (or be allowed to have) the second dose.
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Fri, Feb 12 2021, 9:17 am
amother [ Crimson ] wrote: | Anyone know where near Tzefat area someone can get tested for antibodies? Someone who's in a Seminary in that area wants to get tested for antibodies but the local clalit doesn't want to test. They are willing to pay if needed. |
What health insurance does she have?
Clallit will only do it if she is insured by them.
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Fri, Feb 12 2021, 9:28 am
Actually, clalit (and any kuppah) can only authorize an antibody test if certain conditions are met - extended exposure to someone who tested positive at least thirty days ago is the main one. It's an expensive test, and the government only covers it if there is a reasonable risk.
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Sun, Feb 14 2021, 7:49 am
You are not allowed to break bidud for a vaccine. In the case of someone in bidud, their second vaccine is reserved for up to fourteen days.
Assuming she has two negative tests, ten full days of bidud are required before she can leave the house for any reason. This is assuming the seminary is fully separating everyone. The ten days is since their last contact with someone who was positive.
For a number of reasons, we don't want to vaccinate someone who may already be incubating Corona.
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Sun, Feb 14 2021, 8:06 am
Ideally the seminary should be cancelling the appointments. If not, then she should.
(If she doesn't manage it, it isn't the end of the world. Most days only a proportion of people on the lists actually turn up, and we fill their places with people who turn up without an appointment. But if she does cancel it, it will make it easier for her to rebook when she is allowed to go.)
The only way she could still be in bidud on day 35 is if she is repeatedly exposed. Unfortunately, in a seminary dorm, however careful they are, it is impossible to eliminate the risk of repeated exposures without locking everyone into an individual room - which I'm sure they are not doing. They should impose a very strict capsule system for the next few weeks to limit the risks.
As long as she is registered as being in bidud, there should not be a problem in having her second dose reserved for a longer period. At the moment we have no shortage of vaccines, so she should be able to get the second dose without a problem as soon as she is out of bidud.
(By the way, I'm a nurse in kupat Cholim, spending a few days every week giving vaccines, so I'm familiar with both the rules and how things actually work out.)
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Sun, Feb 14 2021, 8:18 am
Elfrida wrote: | Ideally the seminary should be cancelling the appointments. If not, then she should.
(If she doesn't manage it, it isn't the end of the world. Most days only a proportion of people on the lists actually turn up, and we fill their places with people who turn up without an appointment. But if she does cancel it, it will make it easier for her to rebook when she is allowed to go.)
The only way she could still be in bidud on day 35 is if she is repeatedly exposed. Unfortunately, in a seminary dorm, however careful they are, it is impossible to eliminate the risk of repeated exposures without locking everyone into an individual room - which I'm sure they are not doing. They should impose a very strict capsule system for the next few weeks to limit the risks.
As long as she is registered as being in bidud, there should not be a problem in having her second dose reserved for a longer period. At the moment we have no shortage of vaccines, so she should be able to get the second dose without a problem as soon as she is out of bidud.
(By the way, I'm a nurse in kupat Cholim, spending a few days every week giving vaccines, so I'm familiar with both the rules and how things actually work out.) |
I figured. Which is why I keep coming back with questions. Thank you again.
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