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amother
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Post Wed, Apr 14 2021, 7:49 pm
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*31 reasons why I won’t take the vaccine*


The following list was created by *Israeli Rabbi Chananya Weissman.*

1. It’s not a vaccine. A vaccine by definition provides immunity to a disease. This does not provide immunity to anything. In a best-case scenario, it merely reduces the chance of getting a severe case of a virus if one catches it. Hence, it is a medical treatment, not a vaccine. I do not want to take a medical treatment for an illness I do not have.

2. The drug companies, politicians, medical establishment, and media have joined forces to universally refer to this as a vaccine when it is not one, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer about undergoing a medical treatment. Because they are being deceitful, I do not trust them, and want nothing to do with their medical treatment.

3. The presumed benefits of this medical treatment are minimal and would not last long in any case. The establishment acknowledges this, and is already talking about additional shots and ever-increasing numbers of new “vaccines” that would be required on a regular basis. I refuse to turn myself into a chronic patient who receives injections of new pharmaceutical products on a regular basis simply to reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus that these injections do not even prevent.

4. I can reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus by strengthening my immune system naturally. In the event I catch a virus, there are vitamins and well-established drugs that have had wonderful results in warding off the illness, without the risks and unknowns of this medical treatment.

5. The establishment insists that this medical treatment is safe. They cannot possibly know this because the long-term effects are entirely unknown, and will not be known for many years. They may speculate that it is safe, but it is disingenuous for them to make such a claim that cannot possibly be known. Because they are being disingenuous, I do not trust them, and I want no part of their treatment.

6. The drug companies have zero liability if anything goes wrong, and cannot be sued. Same for the politicians who are pushing this treatment. I will not inject myself with a new, experimental medical device when the people behind it accept no liability or responsibility if something goes wrong. I will not risk my health and my life when they refuse to risk anything.

7. Israel’s Prime Minister has openly admitted that the Israeli people are the world’s laboratory for this experimental treatment. I am not interested in being a guinea pig or donating my body to science.

8. Israel agreed to share medical data of its citizens with a foreign drug company as a fundamental part of their agreement to receive this treatment.I never consented for my personal medical data to be shared with any such entity, nor was I even asked. I will not contribute to this sleazy enterprise.

9. The executives and board members at Pfizer are on record that they have not taken their own treatment, despite all the fanfare and assurances. They are claiming that they would consider it unfair to “cut the line”. This is a preposterous excuse, and it takes an unbelievable amount of chutzpah to even say such a thing. Such a “line” is a figment of their own imagination; if they hogged a couple of injections for themselves no one would cry foul. In addition, billionaires with private jets and private islands are not known for waiting in line until hundreds of millions of peasants all over the world go first to receive anything these billionaires want for themselves.

10. The establishment media have accepted this preposterous excuse without question or concern. Moreover, they laud Pfizer’s executives for their supposed self-sacrifice in not taking their own experimental treatment until we go first. Since they consider us such fools, I do not trust them, and do not want their new treatment. They can have my place in line. I’ll go to the very back of the line.

11. Three facts that must be put together:

Bill Gates is touting these vaccines as essential to the survival of the human race.
Bill Gates believes the world has too many people and needs to be “depopulated”.
Bill Gates, perhaps the richest man in the world, has also not been injected. No rush.
Uh, no. I’ll pass on any medical treatments he wants me to take.

Vaccines: Mainstream Media Has Become a Shocking Exhibit of Intellectual Bigotry and Thought Coercion

12. The establishment has been entirely one-sided in celebrating this treatment.The politicians and media are urging people to take it as both a moral and civic duty. The benefits of the treatment are being greatly exaggerated, the risks are being ignored, and the unknowns are being brushed aside. Because they are being deceitful and manipulative, I will not gamble my personal wellbeing on their integrity.

13. There is an intense propaganda campaign for people to take this treatment.Politicians and celebrities are taking selfies of themselves getting injected (perhaps in some cases pretending to get injected), the media is hyping this as the coolest, smartest, most happy and fun thing to do. It is the most widespread marketing campaign in history. This is not at all appropriate for any medical treatment, let alone a brand new one, and it makes me recoil.

14. The masses are following in tow, posting pictures of themselves getting injected with a drug, feeding the mass peer pressure to do the same. There is something very alarming and sick about this, and I want no part of it. I never took drugs just because “everyone’s doing it” and it’s cool. I’m certainly not going to start now.

15. Those who raise concerns about this medical treatment are being bullied, slandered, mocked, censored, ostracized, threatened, and fired from their jobs. This includes medical professionals who have science-based concerns about the drug and caregivers who have witnessed people under their charge suffering horrible reactions and death shortly after being injected. When the establishment is purging good people who risk everything simply to raise concerns about a new medical treatment — even if they don’t outright oppose it — I will trust these brave people over the establishment every time. I cannot think of a single similar case in history when truth and morality turned out to be on the side of the establishment.

16. This is the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race.

17. It is purposely not being portrayed as the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race, and the fact that it is a medical experiment at all is being severely downplayed.

18. Were they up front with the masses, very few would agree to participate in such an experiment. Manipulating the masses to participate in a medical experiment under false pretenses violates the foundations of medical ethics and democratic law. I will not allow unethical people who engage in such conduct to inject me with anything.

19. The medical establishment is not informing people about any of this. They have become marketing agents for an experimental drug, serving huge companies and politicians who have made deals with them. This is a direct conflict with their mandate to concern themselves exclusively with the wellbeing of the people under their care. Since the medical establishment has become corrupted, and has become nothing more than a corporate and political tool, I do not trust the experimental drug they want so badly to inject me with.

20. We are being pressured in various ways to get injected, which violates medical ethics and the foundations of democratic society. The best way to get me not to do something is to pressure me to do it.

21. The government has sealed their protocol related to the virus and treatments for THIRTY YEARS. This is information that the public has a right to know, and the government has a responsibility to share. What are they covering up? Do they really expect me to believe that everything is kosher about all this, and that they are concerned first and foremost with my health? The last time they did this was with the Yemenite Children Affair. If you’re not familiar with it, look it up. Now they’re pulling the same shtick. They didn’t fool me the first time, and they’re definitely not fooling me now.

22. The government can share our personal medical data with foreign corporations, but they won’t share their own protocol on the matter with us? I’m out.

23. The establishment has recruited doctors, rabbis, the media, and the masses to harangue people who don’t want to get injected with a new drug. We are being called the worst sort of names. We are being told that we believe in crazy conspiracies, that we are against science, that we are selfish, that we are murderers, that we don’t care about the elderly, that it’s our fault that the government continues to impose draconian restrictions on the public. It’s all because we don’t want to get injected with an experimental treatment, no questions asked. We are even being told that we have a religious obligation to do this, and that we are grave sinners if we do not. They say that if we do not agree to get injected, we should be forced to stay inside our homes forever and be ostracized from public life.

This is horrific, disgusting, a perversion of common sense, morality, and the Torah. It makes me recoil, and only further cements my distrust of these people and my opposition to taking their experimental drug. How dare they?

24. I know of many people who got injected, but none of them studied the science in depth, carefully weighed the potential benefits against the risks, compared this option to other alternatives, was truly informed, and decided this medical treatment was the best option for them. On the contrary, they got injected because of the hype, the propaganda, the pressure, the fear, blind trust in what “the majority of experts” supposedly believed (assuming THEY all studied everything in depth and were completely objective, which is highly dubious), blind trust in what certain influential rabbis urged them to do (ditto the above), or hysterical fear that the only option was getting injected or getting seriously ill from the virus. When I see mass hysteria and cult-like behavior surrounding a medical treatment, I will be extremely suspicious and avoid it.

25. The drug companies have a long and glorious history of causing mass carnage with wonder drugs they thrust on unsuspecting populations, even after serious problems had already become known. Instead of pressing the pause button and halting the marketing of these drugs until these issues could be properly investigated, the drug companies did everything in their power to suppress the information and keep pushing their products. When companies and people have demonstrated such gross lack of concern for human life, I will not trust them when they hype a new wonder drug. This isn’t our first rodeo.

26. Indeed, the horror stories are already coming in at warp speed, but the politicians are not the least bit concerned, the medical establishment is brushing them aside as unrelated or negligible, the media is ignoring it, the drug companies are steaming ahead at full speed, and those who raise a red flag continue to be bullied, censored, and punished. Clearly my life and my wellbeing are not their primary concern. I will not be their next guinea pig in their laboratory. I will not risk being the next “coincidence”.

27. Although many people have died shortly after getting injected — including perfectly healthy young people — we are not allowed to imply that the injection had anything to do with it. Somehow this is anti-science and will cause more people to die. I believe that denying any possible link, abusing people who speculate that there might be a link, and demonstrating not the slightest curiosity to even explore if there might be a link is what is anti-science and could very well cause more people to die. These same people believe I am obligated to get injected as well. No freaking thanks.

28. I am repulsed by the religious, cult-like worship of a pharmaceutical product, and will not participate in this ritual.

29. My “healthcare” provider keeps badgering me to get injected, yet they have provided me no information on this treatment or any possible alternatives.Everything I know I learned from others outside the establishment. Informed consent has become conformed consent. I decline.

30. I see all the lies, corruption, propaganda, manipulation, censorship, bullying, violation of medical ethics, lack of integrity in the scientific process, suppression of inconvenient adverse reactions, dismissal of legitimate concerns, hysteria, cult-like behavior, ignorance, closed-mindedness, fear, medical and political tyranny, concealment of protocols, lack of true concern for human life, lack of respect for basic human rights and freedoms, perversion of the Torah and common sense, demonization of good people, the greatest medical experiment of all time being conducted by greedy, untrustworthy, godless people, the lack of liability for those who demand I risk everything… I see all this and I have decided they can all have my place in line. I will put my trust in God. I will use the mind He blessed me with and trust my natural instincts.

Which leads to the final reason which sums up why I will not get “vaccinated.”

31. The Whole thing Stinks.

http://www.chananyaweissman.co.....d=263
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amother
Burlywood


 

Post Wed, Apr 14 2021, 7:50 pm
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amother
Tan


 

Post Wed, Apr 14 2021, 7:53 pm
youngishbear wrote:
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Yup. My own BC of choice has for years, off and on, been Ortho Evra, the birth control patch which delivers much more estrogen than typical BC pills, carries significantly higher risk of dangerous blood clots and other side effects, and which has cost Johnson & Johnson millions and millions of dollars in settlement payouts, over $68 million already back in 2008.

https://www.aboutlawsuits.com/.....1342/
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amother
Vermilion


 

Post Wed, Apr 14 2021, 8:06 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote:
goodness. this is the second update I posted. I am surprised this isnt a more heated topic.

I am curious why not. I for one am very concerned.


I'm very concerned too. I'm also extremely tired of beating my head against the wall. I've been telling people from day one vaccinating for corona is moronic for a variety of reasons but nobody wants to hear it. I daven every day that these vaccines are at worst a waste of time and resources and not something that will ultimately make people very sick.
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amother
Cobalt


 

Post Wed, Apr 14 2021, 8:39 pm
amother [ Blush ] wrote:
Well if everyone can post there non logical opinions, I will too. Do you think Hashem would let most of the people in e'y be damaged by the pfizer vaccine??? I knew that pfizer would have a special siyata dishmaya if it was being tested on jews. And the gedolim of e'y gave a bracha for ppl to take it, so even though I'm usually very logical, I felt there was an element of emuna in Hashem with this.of course when I took the vaccine I davened that it should be a refuah for me.


This is such hogwash I can't. Israel is not the eretz yisroel of the Torah. The govt is corrupt. The gedolim are on video pressured to say whatever the handlers, who were bribed, want them to say. There's no emunah here, only $$.

Anyways, it's a moot point. Everyone will continue believing what they want, I just hope we won't have more deaths and reactions.

To answer the person I don't know enough ppl who were actually eligible and took it, so I can't answer from that pool, but I'm a big believer in anecdotal evidence and will believe social media over the news. I've said this before on other threads. As a medical patient for a few years already I can tell you that there's more knowledge in a fb group than in an arrogant experts head, and if you can't understand that, consider yourself lucky.
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amother
Indigo


 

Post Wed, Apr 14 2021, 8:51 pm
I don’t doubt for a second the adverse reactions aren’t real, but I think the halt is just the government trying to prove they do have safety measures in place. To increase trust in the other ones.
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amother
Blush


 

Post Wed, Apr 14 2021, 9:01 pm
amother [ Cobalt ] wrote:
This is such hogwash I can't. Israel is not the eretz yisroel of the Torah. The govt is corrupt. The gedolim are on video pressured to say whatever the handlers, who were bribed, want them to say. There's no emunah here, only $$.

Anyways, it's a moot point. Everyone will continue believing what they want, I just hope we won't have more deaths and reactions.

To answer the person I don't know enough ppl who were actually eligible and took it, so I can't answer from that pool, but I'm a big believer in anecdotal evidence and will believe social media over the news. I've said this before on other threads. As a medical patient for a few years already I can tell you that there's more knowledge in a fb group than in an arrogant experts head, and if you can't understand that, consider yourself lucky.


I'm glad you have more medical knowledge from your Facebook group. Hogwash indeed.
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amother
Cobalt


 

Post Wed, Apr 14 2021, 9:04 pm
amother [ Blush ] wrote:
I'm glad you have more medical knowledge from your Facebook group. Hogwash indeed.


Like I said. Consider yourself lucky. Those of us with chronic illnesses know that we have to educate doctors about the diseases we suffer from and that the wheels of medicine grind exceedingly slow.
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amother
Indigo


 

Post Wed, Apr 14 2021, 9:05 pm
amother [ Cobalt ] wrote:
Like I said. Consider yourself lucky. Those of us with chronic illnesses know that we have to educate doctors about the diseases we suffer from and that the wheels of medicine grind exceedingly slow.
True story.
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PinkFridge




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Apr 14 2021, 9:23 pm
amother [ Fuchsia ] wrote:
Sorry I don't believe you that you've personally seen young people (certainly not in the plural like you've written it) drop dead weeks after the vaccine.


So there are numerous cases of people getting COVID close to infection. Probably reinfections too, yes?
So is the fourth estate suppressing this bombshell?
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HealthCoach




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Apr 14 2021, 10:58 pm
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I don’t doubt for a second the adverse reactions aren’t real, but I think the halt is just the government trying to prove they do have safety measures in place. To increase trust in the other ones.

I did think it was curious that they would pause only this one. There are many reported adverse reactions to the others.
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