Dd 16 doesn’t want to get the vaccine

amother

Amethyst

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:13 pm

notshanarishona wrote:

Honestly people who are high risk shouldn’t be traveling or going around kids. They should be careful who they are around if they don’t want to take risks.

Correct. I am not traveling, I am not seeing my grandkids.

amother

Saddlebrown

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:14 pm

amother [ Saddlebrown ] wrote:

Are they? I haven’t seen that statistic.
I’ve seen studied ppl not fully vac die
I’ve seen studied full vax get sick. But no or little deaths from covid.

The CDC even says those fully vaxxed can spend time with non-vaxxed family members.

Just want to correct myself. Some have died.
Out of 75 million fully vaccinated Americans, 5,800 got COVID-19, and 74 died

amother

Amethyst

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:14 pm

amother [ Saddlebrown ] wrote:

Just want to correct myself. Some have died.
Out of 75 million fully vaccinated Americans, 5,800 got COVID-19, and 74 died

And one of those who died was my pulmonologist.

Supermom#1

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:16 pm

amother [ Seafoam ] wrote:

A quick Google search says that the CDC has recorded 74 deaths among 75 million fully vaccinated people. 1/1,000,000.

Are they really blaming 74 deaths on the vaccine?? probably just a coincidence!

amother

Amethyst

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:18 pm

Supermom#1 wrote:

Are they really blaming 74 deaths on the vaccine?? probably just a coincidence!

No, you’re not understanding. They didn’t die from the vaccine. They died from covid.

amother

Saddlebrown

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:18 pm

Supermom#1 wrote:

Are they really blaming 74 deaths on the vaccine?? probably just a coincidence!

No covid caught after being fully vaccinated vaccinated.

amother

Seafoam

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:20 pm

amother [ Amethyst ] wrote:

And I know one of those people. My pulmonologist, in LA. Not going to apologize for taking my life and my health so seriously.

You should read Daniel Kahneman's "Thinking Fast and Slow" for an explanation of how foolish that statement was. For those who have read it, WYSIATI.

amother

Chartreuse

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:20 pm

amother [ Amethyst ] wrote:

No, you’re not understanding. They didn’t die from the vaccine. They died from covid.

And this is why the entire world should take a risky vaccine? Because there's a 1 in a million chance to die from covid? The chance to die from the flu or any virus or infection is bigger than that.

amother

Seafoam

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:21 pm

Supermom#1 wrote:

Are they really blaming 74 deaths on the vaccine?? probably just a coincidence!

No! 74 deaths from covid among fully vaccinated people. 74 people have gotten covid and died out of 75 million people who are fully vaccinated. The actual death rate from covid was about, what, 1-2 in 1000? So we're talking about reducing the death risk by 1000%.

Wow. Elementary statistics, people!

amother

Amethyst

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:23 pm

amother [ Seafoam ] wrote:

You should read Daniel Kahneman's "Thinking Fast and Slow" for an explanation of how foolish that statement was. For those who have read it, WYSIATI.

I don’t need to read anything, but thanks. Someday, when you are older and sicker, you may change the lens you view things with. It’s much easier being high risk at 30, than it is at 60. I don’t actually expect you to understand that.

amother

Seafoam

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:25 pm

amother [ Amethyst ] wrote:

Correct. I am not traveling, I am not seeing my grandkids.

That response was to the OP who was saying that at-risk family members were planning on coming (and the next poster who called the 16-year-old selfish).

Don't call a 16-year-old DD selfish for not wanting to get vaccinated. Call your at-risk family members selfish for insisting on having people vaccinated just so they can come!

amother

Seafoam

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:27 pm

amother [ Amethyst ] wrote:

What you see is all there is.

By your logic, you should never leave your front door.

amother

Amethyst

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:28 pm

amother [ Seafoam ] wrote:

What you see is all you know.

By your logic, you should never leave your front door.

I’ll let my oncologist know you said this, thanks.

simba

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:29 pm

I dont believe you can force her. Maybe she can go away to a friends for the time you are having high risk guests?

amother

Slateblue

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:30 pm

amother [ Amethyst ] wrote:

No, you’re not understanding. They didn’t die from the vaccine. They died from covid.

Meme of the year 👍.

Supermom#1

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:31 pm

amother [ Seafoam ] wrote:

I feel much better now. So the 74 deaths were not from the vaccine b"h, they were from Covid among fully vaccinated people. Much better. I was so concerned that there were people actually dying from the vaccine....but that couldn't be cuz it would just be considered a coincidence, right?

amother

Yellow

Sun, Apr 18 2021, 11:31 pm

amother [ Amethyst ] wrote:

If I were your family member I would not come. Even if she gets vaxxed today, she would just barely be under the wire to get second vaxx in a month, then done two weeks after that

I myself am high risk, I wouldn’t come. You might start by tell8ng her she’s being selfish, but I doubt the timing will go your way.

If you are going to call someone selfish for not agreeing with you then maybe they don't want you to come anyway.

I'm gonna wait and see what happens in a couple years before I inject myself with a new vaccine that hasn't been studied long term. Thanks.

I guess I am selfish about my health.