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amother
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 6:37 pm
I keep seeing this phrase on this site. Anyone know the origin? It doesn’t seem like proper grammar. Instead, you can try saying “We don’t have to…”
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amother
Hawthorn
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 6:40 pm
It doesn't seem correct, but come to think of it, I can't exactly figure out why.
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shabbatiscoming
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 6:42 pm
Its probably a yinglish phrase that came about somehow
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amother
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 6:42 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote: | I keep seeing this phrase on this site. Anyone know the origin? It doesn’t seem like proper grammar. Instead, you can try saying “We don’t have to…” |
I think it comes from the yiddish translation "men miz nisht"
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enneamom
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 6:43 pm
shabbatiscoming wrote: | Its probably a yinglish phrase that came about somehow |
Oh well, needs must.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 6:44 pm
What kind of word is "must"? Why do we say "we must" but not "we do must" or "we will must"?
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hodeez
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 6:46 pm
When I would tell my immigrant mother "do I have to?" She would say "no,you must to" lol. She thought that was a stronger word 😂
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amother
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 6:52 pm
amother [ Hawthorn ] wrote: | What kind of word is "must"? Why do we say "we must" but not "we do must" or "we will must"? |
The more I think about it, the less it makes sense. Why do "we don't can" and "we don't should" not make grammatical sense? What is the rule?
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BrisketBoss
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 6:52 pm
amother [ Hawthorn ] wrote: | What kind of word is "must"? Why do we say "we must" but not "we do must" or "we will must"? |
It's a modal verb.
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amother
Almond
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 6:52 pm
hodeez wrote: | When I would tell my immigrant mother "do I have to?" She would say "no,you must to" lol. She thought that was a stronger word 😂 |
Well it is, just without the "to"! (no, you must)
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amother
Hawthorn
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 6:54 pm
BrisketBoss wrote: | It's a modal verb. |
But why do modal verbs work this way?
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BrisketBoss
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 7:00 pm
amother [ Hawthorn ] wrote: | But why do modal verbs work this way? |
They're not regular verbs, they provide information about regular verbs and they aren't inflected. The environment they appear in is always right in front of a verb. (In 'You must!' the verb was brought earlier.) They cannot appear right after another auxiliary verb, like 'should' or 'will.' This is all based on observed rules of syntax.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 8:18 pm
shabbatiscoming wrote: | Its probably a yinglish phrase that came about somehow |
Yiddish is my first language and I never heard or saw this.
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fbc
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 8:26 pm
I had a co-worker who grew up in Argentina and then Israel (both for a significant amount of time). She always used this phrase. I think it's what happens when you're trying to translate from a variety of other languages
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Goody2shoes
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Mon, Jun 14 2021, 9:19 pm
I think people will use it to sound impressive while it actually doesn't.
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