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Chickensoupprof
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My husband has ADHD and he went to Derech Etz Chaim in Yerushalayim he had a good time there.
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amother
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Sun, Jul 18 2021, 1:55 pm
[quote="amother [ Beige ]"]You think Ma'alei Giboa is yeshiva lite? You are seriously misinformed. Where are you getting your information? Here are some facts about it:
1. Americans are entirely integrated with Israelis. All classes are in Hebrew. That includes Talmud, Halacha, Jewish philosophy. No mollycoddling of Americans as happens in Gush. It's Hebrew from day 1. You sink or you swim. They're careful about whom they admit, so most swim. But there are always some Americans who leave.
2. The American kids who go there are brilliant and self motivated learners. Last year's bunch consisted of kids who will be attending Princeton, Penn, Yale, U Chicago, Hopkins, Brown. The lowest-ranked school into which the American kids were going to matriculate was Washington University of St Louis, and that's a really hard school to get into compared to schools like YU or state schools favored by many religious kids like Maryland and Binghamton. Ma'ale Gilboa kids are the furthest thing from "lite" learners that you can imagine.
3. The program is intense and demanding. Gemara learning is done using the pioneering and intellectually demanding Revadim (layers) method that Rav Bigman, Rosh Yeshiva of Ma'ale Gilboa, and his colleagues have pioneered, in which the text is carefully dissected to expose the additions of the different editors -- the Stammaim -- of the Gemara. There is also deep study of Jewish philosophy and Tanach.
4. Religiously, the program is more to the left than other yeshivot. That doesn't mean that the rabbanim or students are less careful about Halacha. It does mean that anyone can express any opinion, even if it disagrees with the 13 ikkarim of the Rambam.
5. Politically, the program is much more liberal than others. Rav Yehuda Gilad, one of the heads of Ma'alei Gilboa, served as member of Knesset of the center-left party Meimad. As a whole, the yeshiva is committed to social justice. With all this, the Israelis who go to Ma'ale Gilboa, which is a hesder yeshiva, actually a shiluv yeshiva, serve in the army for 3 full years, unlike in most hesder programs, where they serve in the army for 1.5 years. The reason is that they feel it is their responsibility to not get out of responsibility just because they are learners. And like most religious boys who join the army, they almost all serve in combat units.
6. The yeshiva treats the boys like adults. Nobody is going to force someone to get up to daven or to go to a shiur. But the nature of the program is such that the boys do it because they are inspired to love K'lal Yisrael, Eretz Yisrael, and the Torah, and to want their wonderful time in yeshiva to mean as much as possible.
Signed,
A proud mother of a Ma'ale Gilboa alumnus[/quot
I'm sorry if I offended anyone, especially today!! Please forgive me that was not all my intention! It was just a suggestion to look into based off of someone who I know that attended this yeshiva. In fact this young man is a very smart and motivated put together individual who got into Columbia and Harvard! However he has varied interests and did not spend full days learning Gemara on a regular yeshiva schedule. He very much enjoyed traveling and music and other aspects of his year in Israel.
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Goldengrl327
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Wed, Oct 06 2021, 8:33 pm
Hi! My son is in a very similar situation. He’s in a MO high school now and wants to go to Israel next year. My older son went to Lev HaTorah and loved it but my younger son does not want that type of program.
He wants a MO, coed program that is also Yeshiva-lite that focuses on travel and some learning. He’s more into hashkafa than textual learning. There don’t seem to be many programs that fit what he wants without being too liberal and not much oversight (and attracting kids that border on not religious).
Bar Ilan XP may be an option if you want college credits but it is coed.
What I’ve heard about Ashreinu is that it’s a “sporty” school (meaning kids who are more into sports tend to go there). Granted, kids that aren’t into sports go there too but the gen pop are sporty.
What I’ve been finding out is that anything outside of a “”Yeshiva” will most likely be coed.
Good luck!
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Goldengrl327
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Wed, Oct 06 2021, 9:45 pm
| amother [ Feverfew ] wrote: | Bar Ilan XP sounds amazing and my DD really wanted to go there. The program was perfect. When she looked a little farther into it, haskaficly the kids were not who she wished to surround herself with. Definitely inquiring about that and make your decision with your eyes wide open.
What about Orayta? As I said, I have a DD but my friend sent her son there. |
For my son, all the yeshivas (from Orayata, Ohr Shraga, Lev, etc) they all have long days of learning and night Seder, which he doesn’t want.
I agree that you have to go in with your eyes open and question everything. From what “type” of kids are coming to the program to what happens on “off” shabboses.
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