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amother




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Post Tue, Jul 20 2021, 9:58 pm
my 5 yr old goes to a small kiruv yeshiva that doesnt spend so much time on aleph beis etc
he cant go to other schools now bec the classes are too large and he gets therapies setts etc

so he bh reads english well and is increasing his reading levels bh.

But, regarding hebrew, I taught him the alef beis letters and sounds. He knows them bh.

the problem is that he is forgetting some nekudos, so he cant read a word with different nekudos(most hebrew words) (he has no problem blending the alef beis letter with the nekuda if I remind him what sound the nekuda makes)

does anyone have any tips/advice with their 5 yr old struggling to remember the sounds of the different nekudos?

I figured I can post to see if anyone knows some tricks I dont know. My older child didnt have this problem.
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amother




Cornsilk
 

Post Tue, Jul 20 2021, 10:31 pm
There’s a graphic that’s based on the LIPS reading program that superimposes each Nekuda onto a photo of the mouth in the shape it makes while saying that vowel sound. Kids look in the mirror while saying the sound, and then match it to the matching photo. I find this extremely helpful for remembering nekudos/vowel differentiation.

Simpler visual hints put each nekuda inside a picture, for example segol inside an egg, the shape is kind of similar, and kids practice those like flash cards, and eventually drop the visual cue.
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amother




Lightblue
 

Post Tue, Jul 20 2021, 10:36 pm
Practice, practice, practice. I know it’s hard, but that’s what works.
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amother




OP
 

Post Tue, Jul 20 2021, 11:44 pm
thanks
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amother




OP
 

Post Wed, Jul 21 2021, 3:36 pm
bump, anyone have ideas/tips to add?
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imasinger




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Jul 21 2021, 3:49 pm
Email me (anonymously if you like) at myimamotherfriends@gmail.com

I can send you a recording of some of the songs that have been used in kindergartens I've worked with.

Songs are a great memory aide, particularly when combined with motions.

You can also use visuals, together we 8th these tricks:

Chirik -- one little mouse under a chair, you squeal "EEE!"

Tzeirei -- two friends side by side, "hEY, how are you?

Kamatz -- open your mouth, "AWW" (or, if you're sefardi, see patach below)

Patach -- "AHHH"

Segol -- 3 Eggs in a nEst

Cholam -- a ball bonks your head, OH!

Kubutz -- the ball hits your stomach, OOOF!

Shuruk -- go down the slide, OOOH!

Sheva -- uh uh uh, or no sound!
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amother




OP
 

Post Wed, Jul 21 2021, 3:55 pm
imasinger wrote:
Email me (anonymously if you like) at myimamotherfriends@gmail.com

I can send you a recording of some of the songs that have been used in kindergartens I've worked with.

Songs are a great memory aide, particularly when combined with motions.

You can also use visuals, together we 8th these tricks:

Chirik -- one little mouse under a chair, you squeal "EEE!"

Tzeirei -- two friends side by side, "hEY, how are you?

Kamatz -- open your mouth, "AWW" (or, if you're sefardi, see patach below)

Patach -- "AHHH"

Segol -- 3 Eggs in a nEst

Cholam -- a ball bonks your head, OH!

Kubutz -- the ball hits your stomach, OOOF!

Shuruk -- go down the slide, OOOH!

Sheva -- uh uh uh, or no sound!



thank you.

I also just emailed you for the songs.
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amother




IndianRed
 

Post Wed, Jul 21 2021, 4:16 pm
He’s five. He needs another solid year of practice before you can call this a problem. See if you can hire a steady kriah tutor.
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mha3484




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Jul 21 2021, 4:27 pm
amother [ IndianRed ] wrote:
He’s five. He needs another solid year of practice before you can call this a problem. See if you can hire a steady kriah tutor.


I agree with this. Some kids it just clicks closer to age six. Mine was like that for sure.
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amother




Birch
 

Post Wed, Jul 21 2021, 4:28 pm
amother [ IndianRed ] wrote:
He’s five. He needs another solid year of practice before you can call this a problem. See if you can hire a steady kriah tutor.


That’s what I was thinking, five is really young.
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amother




Lightcyan
 

Post Wed, Jul 21 2021, 4:50 pm
amother [ IndianRed ] wrote:
He’s five. He needs another solid year of practice before you can call this a problem. See if you can hire a steady kriah tutor.


Yes. I heard from a kriah specialist that a child has to process between 10,000 and 30,000 words in order to know how to read Hebrew well.

You're doing great just keep going with chazarah and love.
He will know it better and better.
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amother




OP
 

Post Wed, Jul 21 2021, 5:08 pm
amother [ IndianRed ] wrote:
He’s five. He needs another solid year of practice before you can call this a problem. See if you can hire a steady kriah tutor.


He is turning 6 on August 10. He is going into first grade. I think my older son learned the nekudos in kindergarten. Are you sayIng your son learns the nekudos in first grade?

And, I have been practicing with him for a few months already. I am his tutor. I tutored my 2 other kids as well but they did not have trouble remembering the sounds of the nekudos. They needed a lot of practice which I am doing with him as well.

Thank you to everyone who responded.

I will keep practicing and will make a visual like some posters posted about.
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amother




White
 

Post Wed, Jul 21 2021, 8:41 pm
My DD is turning six in January and extremely bright and has barely been exposed to nekudos yet at all. But now I see your son is entering first grade, my daughter still has another whole year before first grade, so I guess that accounts for the difference.

It sounds like he is at the younger side for his grade level, at this age that can really matter
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amother




IndianRed
 

Post Wed, Jul 21 2021, 8:51 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote:
He is turning 6 on August 10. He is going into first grade. I think my older son learned the nekudos in kindergarten. Are you sayIng your son learns the nekudos in first grade?

And, I have been practicing with him for a few months already. I am his tutor. I tutored my 2 other kids as well but they did not have trouble remembering the sounds of the nekudos. They needed a lot of practice which I am doing with him as well.

Thank you to everyone who responded.

I will keep practicing and will make a visual like some posters posted about.


You’re doing great. Just keep being consistent with the practice and he’ll iyh be fine. My son started learning kriah the year he turned 5 too but it took him a good year and a half to remember all of it, and that was with constant daily practice at school plus a lot of additional tutoring.
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amother




Chartreuse
 

Post Today at 10:02 pm
I would practice the sounds of the nekudos alone, without letters and without the name of the nekuda, until he knows those very well. Then put them with letters (when you do this, in the beginning you can ask him to say the sound of the nekuda before he blends it with the letter), and only then into words.
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