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Do women dance in your shul?
Yes  
 12%  [ 34 ]
No  
 87%  [ 241 ]
Total Votes : 275


Rappel




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 4:33 pm
In my Beit Knesset, women dance, but not with a Torah.

There's a part of the women's section which is wide and open, to accommodate baby carriages. They keep the curtains closed there so those whom want to dance can enjoy themselves, while women whom want to watch go up on the balcony.

I generally like dancing, and when I'm tired and hot I go to watch the men Smile
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amother




Celeste
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 4:53 pm
LovesHashem wrote:
No it's not done where I live.

Women do dance at simchas beis hashoevas, and growing up women were given the chance to hold and kiss the torahs. Which saddens me that is not a real option where we live now either.


In our shul, women often dance at the simchas bris hashoeva too.

Simchas Torah there is hardly any space to breathe and stand let alone dance in the women's section. Either way, mothers usually look after their children and enjoy each others company.

Whereas at the simchas Beis hashoeva, the music is too loud and we can't chat and there are less children, therefore women often dance.
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BrisketBoss




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 8:14 pm
I wish!!!
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amother




Lightyellow
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 8:41 pm
No, but when I was in seminary in eretz yisrael I went to shuls that did, and till today have such warm inspiring memories. I think in my shul it would feel weird with the crowd that goes its just not the type , but in Israel it was very special.
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amother




Cantaloupe
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 8:51 pm
no
I go to a sefardi shul
I was taught in seminary I cant even look at an open sefer torah
I grew up modox and the women use to kiss the torah
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amother




Tealblue
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 8:56 pm
I really wish we did. We're obligated in the mitzvos of the Torah, why can't we have some of the joy that day as well?
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amother




Starflower
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 9:35 pm
Yes and I love it!!
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DrMom




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 9:41 pm
amother [ Cantaloupe ] wrote:
no
I go to a sefardi shul
I was taught in seminary I cant even look at an open sefer torah
I grew up modox and the women use to kiss the torah

I've never heard of this. What kind of seminary was it?
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dena613




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 9:47 pm
I heard(didn't confirm) women in niddah can't look at open torah our touch Torah
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amother




Cantaloupe
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 9:48 pm
DrMom wrote:
I've never heard of this. What kind of seminary was it?


not a bais yaakov
I went to michlalah
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amother




Apricot
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 10:03 pm
amother [ Cantaloupe ] wrote:
not a bais yaakov
I went to michlalah


It's only women who are a nidda
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BrisketBoss




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 10:03 pm
dena613 wrote:
I heard(didn't confirm) women in niddah can't look at open torah our touch Torah


Yep, some people hold that way but it's not a halacha level thing. The halacha states that Torah lo mekabul tuma. Everyone avoids touching the klaf, but it isn't mekabel tuma.

So...when you put it that way...the special nidda restrictions that some people teach, seem a bit sexist. Shrug.


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BrisketBoss




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 10:04 pm
amother [ Tealblue ] wrote:
I really wish we did. We're obligated in the mitzvos of the Torah, why can't we have some of the joy that day as well?


Cuz obviously watching men dance is way more fun than actually dancing, right?

At least I had my fun in college. Boy was that fun.
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zaq




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 10:06 pm
Yes. With a Sefer Torah in a separate room.
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amother




Cantaloupe
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 10:09 pm
amother [ Apricot ] wrote:
It's only women who are a nidda


whatever it is, I really have no interest to dance with a sefer torah and it wouldnt be accepted in my circles
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amother




DarkYellow
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 10:30 pm
BrisketBoss wrote:
Cuz obviously watching men dance is way more fun than actually dancing, right?

At least I had my fun in college. Boy was that fun.

Simchat Torah in college was awesome!!!
(I went to Barnard)
As a real grownup/mom - not so much fun.
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amother




Wine
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 10:31 pm
shabbatiscoming wrote:
Do women dance the hakafot in your shul? They do in mine and the last year or two, the women were even given a torah to dance with.


Absolutely not. I only know one baal teshuva Shul where the rabbi explained himself allowing the women to dance with a Torah… otherwise it’s not accepted.
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BrisketBoss




 
 
 
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 10:32 pm
amother [ DarkYellow ] wrote:
Simchat Torah in college was awesome!!!
(I went to Barnard)
As a real grownup/mom - not so much fun.


Totally. Sometimes the reality of being a real grownup/mom hits me in a way that I do not like.

To everything there is a season.
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amother




Aubergine
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 10:36 pm
Growing up in a B T oriented shul, at first women didn't dance. just watched. Then a few more feminist women wanted to, and set up a little mechitza area to do so.


Would never fly in typical yeshivish shuls
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amother




Lotus
 

Post Wed, Sep 22 2021, 10:40 pm
Not in my shul. (Lakewood, yeshivish.) We don't have a mechitzah on Simchas Torah (we use tables to block off a section of the men's side as a ezras nashim) and there's no way to dance without the men seeing (as the "mechitzah" is literally table height).
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