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 Wed, Jan 12 2022, 7:55 am
Low carb diets might be good for some people, but it is not the panacea.
Actually, it has risks, of eating too much protein or too much fat, which can have negative effects (e.g. gall stones or gout)
You do you, if low carb suits some users here, all the better for them.
Keto, in my opinion, is not a good idea... no-one should push low carb so far as to produce ketones.
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amother
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Wed, Jan 12 2022, 7:58 am
| BubblyBubby wrote: | Low carb diets might be good for some people, but it is not the panacea.
Actually, it has risks, of eating too much protein or too much fat, which can have negative effects (e.g. gall stones or gout)
You do you, if low carb suits some users here, all the better for them.
Keto, in my opinion, is not a good idea... no-one should push low carb so far as to produce ketones. |
Ketosis and Ketoacidosis is 2 different things
Ketosis has its therapeutic place.
The OP needs to understand where cravings comes from
If it’s a physiological source then it’s caused by insulin
If it’s psychological then it’s emotional eating and needs to be dealt with differently
In my case it’s both
But I also suffer from chronic inflammation, RA, so that’s why I stick to Keto
BTW- nausea just means you over did your fats, but if you overdo your fats, protein, and a little over your carb, that’s a recipe for disaster
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Wed, Jan 12 2022, 10:42 am
For me, the way to go is "eat when you're hungry, don't eat when you're not", "high satiety food" (which often are lean proteins, like white fish, chicken breast)", "diversity, many colours, many different kinds of fruit and veggies (I try to eat 10, 15 or even 20 different types of veggies and fruit in one meal)" "low glycemic index (I.e. whole grain or veggies rather than white flour or sugar) "enjoy treats slowly, in small quantities", and most importantly: move, exercise.
So I think that "low carb" has some merit, in replacing calorie dense carbs with veggies, which are less dense in calories, but have more micronutrients, or with whole grain products which get digested slower and therefore don't cause a rapid increase and then decrease in blood sugar levels and blood insuline levels.
On the other hand, I think one should not exagerate.
I think that low carb is unhealthy if it does not include enough veggies.
I don't think it's a good idea to forbid fruit, or to limit them too much.
I think that it is counterproductive to get to a point where sugar supply is so low that the body has to go into ketosis, which causes headaches or lightheadedness...
And I think that there is no reason to obsess about carbs, in general...
Humans are very adaptable, there is a wide variety of ways to eat and live healthyly, everyone should find what is best for them.
In general, it's better not to try and lose weight, since the yoyo effect is so prevalent that most people end up heavier than before they started around 2 years after the diet. Many very obese people get to their excessive weight BECAUSE of their diets, and not in spite of them. That is old news, I read it in a medical book about nutrition more than 20 years ago. But any doctor will confirm it today.
Rather than losing weight, one should try to get in good shape (exercice), the factors linked to fitness and endurence are more determining for good health than pure weight.
Also, exercice somehow takes away cravings, at least in me...
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Wed, Jan 12 2022, 11:07 am
| BubblyBubby wrote: | Low carb diets might be good for some people, but it is not the panacea.
Actually, it has risks, of eating too much protein or too much fat, which can have negative effects (e.g. gall stones or gout)
You do you, if low carb suits some users here, all the better for them.
Keto, in my opinion, is not a good idea... no-one should push low carb so far as to produce ketones. |
Insulin resistance causes both gout and gall stones. Hall stones are also caused by not enough fat.
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amother
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Wed, Jan 12 2022, 11:23 am
| BubblyBubby wrote: | For me, the way to go is "eat when you're hungry, don't eat when you're not", "high satiety food" (which often are lean proteins, like white fish, chicken breast)", "diversity, many colours, many different kinds of fruit and veggies (I try to eat 10, 15 or even 20 different types of veggies and fruit in one meal)" "low glycemic index (I.e. whole grain or veggies rather than white flour or sugar) "enjoy treats slowly, in small quantities", and most importantly: move, exercise.
So I think that "low carb" has some merit, in replacing calorie dense carbs with veggies, which are less dense in calories, but have more micronutrients, or with whole grain products which get digested slower and therefore don't cause a rapid increase and then decrease in blood sugar levels and blood insuline levels.
On the other hand, I think one should not exagerate.
I think that low carb is unhealthy if it does not include enough veggies.
I don't think it's a good idea to forbid fruit, or to limit them too much.
I think that it is counterproductive to get to a point where sugar supply is so low that the body has to go into ketosis, which causes headaches or lightheadedness...
And I think that there is no reason to obsess about carbs, in general...
Humans are very adaptable, there is a wide variety of ways to eat and live healthyly, everyone should find what is best for them.
In general, it's better not to try and lose weight, since the yoyo effect is so prevalent that most people end up heavier than before they started around 2 years after the diet. Many very obese people get to their excessive weight BECAUSE of their diets, and not in spite of them. That is old news, I read it in a medical book about nutrition more than 20 years ago. But any doctor will confirm it today.
Rather than losing weight, one should try to get in good shape (exercice), the factors linked to fitness and endurence are more determining for good health than pure weight.
Also, exercice somehow takes away cravings, at least in me... |
If you’re body isn’t happy doing keto, don’t do it!
If it works for some, it doesn’t mean it works for everyone!
Find your own happy place xx
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Every single one of you who’s doing keto should check your creatinine levels.
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andrea levy
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Wed, Jan 12 2022, 1:49 pm
| sequoia wrote: | | Every single one of you who’s doing keto should check your creatinine levels. |
everyone who is insulin resistant should be checking them.
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Thu, Jan 13 2022, 10:47 am
| amother [ OP ] wrote: | | How do you know if you are insulin resistant? Assuming your sugar levels and bloodwork are normal. |
There is a test for this. I think it's called a "clamp".
They give you sugar and look how your insuline levels and blood sugar levels evolve with time.
I think you can also test fasting insuline levels... if they are high, it's not good.
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andrea levy
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Sat, Jan 15 2022, 11:11 pm
| amother [ OP ] wrote: | | How do you know if you are insulin resistant? Assuming your sugar levels and bloodwork are normal. |
Baseline insulin test. Then periodically checking it. There are also physical signs.
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andrea levy
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Sat, Jan 15 2022, 11:14 pm
| BubblyBubby wrote: | There is a test for this. I think it's called a "clamp".
They give you sugar and look how your insuline levels and blood sugar levels evolve with time.
I think you can also test fasting insuline levels... if they are high, it's not good. |
So funny. I’ve never seen this expression except in scientific papers.
Here’s an explanation of the HOMA IR.
https://labs.selfdecode.com/blog/homa-ir/
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