DD 6 having trouble learning to read

amother

Mon, Jan 17 2022, 7:18 pm

My dd who just turned 6 is having trouble clicking with reading. If she applies herself she can recognize sight words and sound basic words out. But often when she doesn’t recognize the word or sound it out to herself immediately she gets frustrated and gives up. How can I help her stay out of that frustrated zone?

#BestBubby

Mon, Jan 17 2022, 7:56 pm

Hi.

I am a reading specialist.

Putting emphasis on sight words is bad for beginning readers as it teaches kids to try to MEMORIZE
WHOLE WORDS instead of sounding out.

Many so-called "sight" words can actually be sounded out and should be learned as PHONICS words.

Buy or borrow from the library a book called The Reading Lesson.

It is a phonics based reading system written for parents.

Hatzlochah!

amother

Orange

Mon, Jan 17 2022, 8:05 pm

Does she know the sounds of all the letters
If she needs help blending the sounds you can work on word families
For example : at- bat, cat, fat, hat, mat, pat, rat, sat
EPS- primary phonics are great
https://eps.schoolspecialty.co.....set-1
Phonetically decodable written stories

Here is a sample of book 1:1
https://eps.schoolspecialty.co.....=.pdf

There are 10 books in each set

Set 1 is short vowel sounds

behappy2

Mon, Jan 17 2022, 8:11 pm

Tell her that she doesn't need to know it. She should just guess. If she doesn't know it don't make her try 5 times. Just tell her. I did this with my son and it was a game changer for us.

amother

Orange

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 8:00 am

amother [ Orange ] wrote:

Buy only the story books, no need the workbook or comprehension

I would read each story 2x (seperate days)
If after she goes through all 10 books she still has trouble with short vowel sounds get
set 1a
By then she should be proficient
Set 2 and Set 2a - is long vowel sounds

By the time she gets through set 2 she should be ready for 2nd grade, but I would try to get all 5/6 sets since they are very good for summer learning
If she finishes all the sets she will be more than ready for 2nd grade (she will be mid 2nd grade level)

amother

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 8:22 am

amother [ Orange ] wrote:

She’s in pre 1a not even first grade yet.

ora_43

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 8:43 am

Work on a mix of words she knows, and words that are right at the limit of what she knows.

Eg if she knows "cat" and "car", work on cat, car, and can. Once she gets that (in the next lesson) add "bat" or "cab" or "ran."

Sounding out a bunch of new words at once is hard for little kids. It's a lot less frustrating if they understand 80% of what they're reading, and the rest is stuff they can get with a little effort. Add new letters + vowel sounds gradually to keep up the 80/20 ratio.

(80/20 being just my estimate based on my own experience, not anything official. see how much your kid can handle.)

amother

Daylily

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 8:48 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

She’s in pre 1a not even first grade yet.

If so, she should only be reading books with very simple sight words that she learned and cvc words.

Make sure she has good phonemic awareness and good grasp of the alphabetic principle.

amother

Steelblue

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 8:49 am

To all those who gave good advice:
This is all great if you just are a bit behind…slower learning to read…need some motivation.
But what if this child has a real learning disability? The longer you wait, the harder it will be.
You have listed red flags.
Get evaluated asap.
You may find she just needs strategies like the ones listed above, or you may find she has a real need for a specialist asap.
Where are you located so we can guide you?
Speaking as an SLP who has seen HUNDREDS of kids get to higher grades unable to read…with all the fallout that entails…because they didn’t get the proper help…
Time is of the essence.
Get help now.

amother

Burgundy

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 9:14 am

amother [ Steelblue ] wrote:

is it red flags for someone in pre1a? Shes not even in 1st grade yet!

taketwo

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 9:19 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

She’s in pre 1a not even first grade yet.

Are her teachers concerned or just you?

Please don't drill her. Pushing her when she is not ready will just give her a dislike for learning, for life.

I would just use everyday activities as teaching opportunities. When you give her a cookie, say what sound does cookie start with? And say caaa. Then say c makes the sound caa. In q very light, fun, by the way way. When you see a easy 3 letter word somewhere, just sound it out with her. Remember Don't over do it. No drilling or questioning. Just mention in a fun way during every day life.

amother

Daylily

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 9:23 am

amother [ Steelblue ] wrote:

I disagree. No red flags. Unless we’re missing context and this child has a history of developmental delays, or there is a family history of dyslexia, this seems to be a case of OP not knowing what a child this age should be expected to do.

amother

NeonOrange

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 10:43 am

OP she is in pre1a. Where they are only beginning to get to decoding simple words at this time of year.
Why are you jumping to assume she has trouble reading?

Most od my children didn't click with decoding until the beginning of first grade. Then they became advanced readers. She is so little still there is no reason to worry.

amother

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 11:13 am

amother [ Daylily ] wrote:

If so, she should only be reading books with very simple sight words that she learned and cvc words.

Make sure she has good phonemic awareness and good grasp of the alphabetic principle.

Thanks. We have the Bob books, are those good? And this thread reassured me!

amother

Daylily

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 11:16 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

Thanks. We have the Bob books, are those good?

Theyre ok, but not perfectly controlled , meaning they throw in longer, harder words with phonemes kids haven’t learned yet, some kids have a hard time with them. In other words, I can see why a kid who isn’t a very strong or confident or experienced “emergent reader” might get frustrated by them.

mha3484

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 11:19 am

My son was like this last year in pre1a. There are some attention issues but not huge. He got 2x a week resource room which helped him a lot and now he is half way through 1st and a much better reader. Something in his mind just clicked at the end of pre1a. His reading group teacher texted me a few weeks ago to let me know he went up a group since he made so much progress.

If your school has a resource room the one on one attention cant hurt. But I would not worry until the end of the school year.

amother

NeonOrange

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 12:05 pm

I have a close family relative who is considered a reading expert in ny. She deals with hundreds of kids with reading issues. She told me that many kid's brains aren't ready to read in pre1a and most are fine by 1st grade.
If you recall, when we went to grade school awhile ago, we didn't start to learn to read until 1st grade

amother

Orange

Tue, Jan 18 2022, 5:04 pm

amother [ OP ] wrote:

She’s in pre 1a not even first grade yet.

Here in FLORIDA they use EPS Primary Phonics in Kindergarten (the grade before 1st grade).
Take a look at the sample book
This is what you can expect through the Set
Very well made
Most kids leave kindergarten reading at an almost 2nd grade level