Do you skip the "harachamans" when benching if in hurry?

nachlaot

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 12:04 pm

We really only do the "harachamans" on shabbat, and generally skip them during the week (just doing the 4 blessings)? Is this common?

BrisketBoss

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 12:06 pm

During the week we end bensching right after...the paragraph after u'vnei.

hodeez

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 12:10 pm

Why wouldn't you say the whole thing? Is this an ashki thing?

shabbatiscoming

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 12:15 pm

hodeez wrote:

Why wouldn't you say the whole thing? Is this an ashki thing?

Most definitely not. I have never heard of finishing benching anywhere other than the end.

Blessing1

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 12:15 pm

I never heard of not saying the entire & finishing bentching.

watergirl

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 12:19 pm

shabbatiscoming wrote:

Most definitely not. I have never heard of finishing benching anywhere other than the end.

Same. I had never heard this was a thing.

Everyone should ask their LOR.

Bnei Berak 10

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 12:34 pm

I don't eat bread every day but when I do I am very particular to say introductory tehilim and the whole Birkat hamazon. Sgula for parnossa and sheffa.

zaq

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 12:53 pm

Never heard of such a thing.

zaq

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 12:55 pm

But if you're really in a rush, just say"Rub-a-dub-dub, thanks for the grub, yea, G-d!" and split. After all, the verse does say "ve'achalta vesavata uvarachta" (you shall eat and you shall be satiated and you shall flee).

puzzlepieces

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 12:56 pm

Yes the harachamans are extra, I will skip them if in a major rush on Shabbos, that's what my father always did.
Litvish Ashkenazi if that helps.

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PinkFridge

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 1:07 pm

I've only heard of skipping it because of extenuating circumstances. Or maybe during same circumstances getting up and walking around or doing other things. Not saying those are the parameters but that's been my only experience. (Ashk, Litvish.) CYLOR.

1ofbillions

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 1:15 pm

I definitely do this sometimes when I’m in a rush. Haven’t heard of any halachic backing for it though.

Ema of 5

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 1:17 pm

BrisketBoss wrote:

During the week we end bensching right after...the paragraph after u'vnei.

Same. I do this on shabbos also. My husband and kids say the whole thing. I don’t say the whole thing because I tend to get interrupted and lose my place, so I figure the less I say the less I will lose my place.

LovesHashem

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 1:25 pm

1ofbillions wrote:

I definitely do this sometimes when I’m in a rush. Haven’t heard of any halachic backing for it though.

That part is dioraisa and the rest isn't I was taught.

flower2

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 1:29 pm

It's a yeshiva thing to skip the harachamans

agreer

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 1:48 pm

So sad. It literally takes 2 minutes to say them. Even from a bencher.

singleagain

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 1:50 pm

nachlaot wrote:

We really only do the "harachamans" on shabbat, and generally skip them during the week (just doing the 4 blessings)? Is this common?

The opposite. I don't bench harachaman on shabbat bc it's bakasha .. a request and we don't ask God for things on shabbat

MitzadSheini

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 1:55 pm

singleagain wrote:

The opposite. I don't bench harachaman on shabbat bc it's bakasha .. a request and we don't ask God for things on shabbat

Yes was coming to say that I believe this - I.e. say the harachamans during the week but not on Shabbat - is the opinion of Rav Schachter from YU.

PinkFridge

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 2:32 pm

MitzadSheini wrote:

Yes was coming to say that I believe this - I.e. say the harachamans during the week but not on Shabbat - is the opinion of Rav Schachter from YU.

Very interesting! Does that mean just skipping the 9 Harachamans, or stopping at al yechasreinu?

dena613

Tue, Mar 01 2022, 2:38 pm

PinkFridge wrote:

Very interesting! Does that mean just skipping the 9 Harachamans, or stopping at al yechasreinu?

They mean, I believe, stopping at al yechasreinu on shabbos
I have heard of that too.