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bunchagirlies


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Sun, Mar 20 2022, 9:33 pm
many people don't go by their full name. It's very common. doesn't mean much. R' Chaim ztz"l was once a regular young person, and that's the name he went by.
I personally would not chance playing around with names, specifically from such a tzaddik. I'd either use the full name or not at all. You can give the full name and only call the child by one or 2 of them. The full name only gets used in shul and on the ketuba at marriage. (Hopefully never for tehillim.)
I think we can assume that the name will be really common soon, and shmaryahu won't be as unique sounding anymore.
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happytobemom


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Sun, Mar 20 2022, 10:30 pm
From the biography of Rebbetzin Kanievsky (whose full name was Batsheva Esther but was only called Batsheva):
A new father put a question to R' Chaim during the shivah. "I already have a daughter named Esther," he said. "If I just call my new baby daughter Batsheva, will that count as if I named her after the Rebbetzin?"
R' Chaim replied yes, but if a couple doesn't already have a daughter named Esther and wants to name a newborn child after the Rebbetzin, they should give both names - Batsheva Esther.
Conversely, if someone already has a daughter named Batsheva, can they name another daughter Esther after the Rebbetzin? R' Chaim replied that since the Rebbetzin's primary name was Batsheva, naming her Esther would not be considered as naming her after the Rebbetzin.
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ImmaBubby


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Sun, Mar 20 2022, 10:32 pm
Pumpkin, I was actually remembering the same piece of information- that Chaim may have been added due to an Illness. I’m wondering if it read it in the biography of Rebbetzin Kanievsky. I'll try to check tomorrow iy”H.
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happytobemom


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Sun, Mar 20 2022, 10:42 pm
ImmaBubby wrote: | Pumpkin, I was actually remembering the same piece of information- that Chaim may have been added due to an Illness. I’m wondering if it read it in the biography of Rebbetzin Kanievsky. I'll try to check tomorrow iy”H. |
This is what I just found in the biography:
The Steipler himself served as sandek at his son's bris and called him Shmaryahu Yosef Chaim - Shmaryahu Yosef after his father in law and Chaim after his father.
R' Yaakov Yisrael mentioned to several family members that he felt he probably would not merit having another son, so he decided to give this baby the names of both the child's grandparents.
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WitchKitty


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Mon, Mar 21 2022, 4:21 am
R' Chaim's shitta was that all names of a person are considered one long name.
The question is how many psukim should a person with 2 or more names, say in shacharis? Should he say one for each name or one for his full name? In this example, should R' Chaim himself say 3 psukim, one which starts with shin ends with vav, one starts with yud ends with fei, one starts with ches ends with mem, or should he say one posuk which starts with shin and ends with mem.
His psak was the second option. One posuk for one long name. He considered all his names to be his one name.
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WitchKitty


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Mon, Mar 21 2022, 5:41 am
amother [ Hosta ] wrote: | Then why didn't he go by his one long name? |
He didn't have a problem with nicknames.
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Chickensoupprof


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Mon, Mar 21 2022, 5:45 am
In the biography of Rebbetzin Kanievsky a''h I read that after the Rebbetzin was niftar people asked him if they should name their daughter after the rebbetzin. Some people had already a Batsheva in the family and asked if they could name her Esther or the otherway around Rav Chaim said the Rebbetzin went through life with Batsheva and they should give that name piority.
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finallyamommy


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Mon, Mar 21 2022, 6:45 am
I seem to remember that his cousin Rav Nissim Karelitz was named after the same grandfather and was Shmaryahu Yosef Nissim.
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