Depp v Heard | Imamother

amother

Navy

Sun, May 01 2022, 12:31 am

amother [ Rainbow ] wrote:

I’m not surprised she videoed it though.
When your spouse gets drunk and high nightly, and acts violently, the smart thing to do is to video it.
It does not mean that she had ill intentions at the time.
(Yes, banging things and throwing things is violence.)

He seems sharp enough to know how to turn this around on her and make her look stupid.
Even if she has bpd it doesn’t mean that she was behaving worse in the situation.

They both seem to have issues.

I wouldn’t be so quick to put the blame solely on her.

I think their therapist suggested taping their conversations

honeymoon

Sun, May 01 2022, 12:37 am

amother [ Rainbow ] wrote:

Only a narcissistic, very selfish spouse thinks of recording her husband while he is cutting himself, instead of being there for him and offering moral support.

amother

Catmint

Sun, May 01 2022, 10:41 am

Another reason I find this all so intriguing is because their history speaks to the whole cancel culture phenomenon mob rule we have seen recently.
The social analysis aspect of it.
Dare I hope this is indeed another sign the tide is finally turning.

amother

Rainbow

Sun, May 01 2022, 12:02 pm

honeymoon wrote:

Only a narcissistic, very selfish spouse thinks of recording her husband while he is cutting himself, instead of being there for him and offering moral support.

Not when it happens so often that you are almost numb to it.
He may have denied it when sober and she may have wanted to show him what he acts like when he is high or drunk.

This is also a reason why I believe he cut his own finger.

I am wondering about the psychological evaluation.
It seems she was hired by Depp.
Is this the norm that the opposing party can demand an eval?

amother

IndianRed

Sun, May 01 2022, 3:07 pm

As one who lived and divorced a narcissist husband I can very well point how manipulative,mean and mocking johnny is/was.

Ppl with narcissism have a charisma and know how to play it well to attract others with their way of talking and smiling.

Johnny is doing the same and no wonder he has everyone on his side.

Amber was and still is a victim of Johnny

amother

IndianRed

Sun, May 01 2022, 3:08 pm

honeymoon wrote:

Only a narcissistic, very selfish spouse thinks of recording her husband while he is cutting himself, instead of being there for him and offering moral support.

I regret not doing the same when living with a narcissist husband which I truly cared for

number

Sun, May 01 2022, 3:12 pm

amother [ Rainbow ] wrote:

The evaluation was because she insisted he caused her PTSD and he said she was defaming her and she didn’t have ptsd. So the court ordered that she be evaluated. Her side wanted him evaluated as well but because he never claimed to have ptsd or anything else the request was denied.

Yes I know way too much about this case and it’s not because they’re celebrities. I just find it super interesting. I didn’t know who either of them were before this.

amother

Catmint

Sun, May 01 2022, 3:30 pm

And so much for her public claim to donate millions to charity
Can’t say I find either one of them appealing but like when the truth is revealed

amother

Rainbow

Sun, May 01 2022, 4:20 pm

amother [ IndianRed ] wrote:

Yes. I am wondering why so few people see that, and are so quick to take sides.

amother

Rainbow

Sun, May 01 2022, 4:21 pm

number wrote:

Couldn't she have been evaluated by an independent party? Why be evaluated by someone who met with Depp before?

amother

Saddlebrown

Sun, May 01 2022, 4:44 pm

amother [ Rainbow ] wrote:

Yes. I am wondering why so few people see that, and are so quick to take sides.

because he's a covert narcissist which makes it all the more confusing

amother

Yarrow

Sun, May 01 2022, 6:31 pm

I watched some clips of his testimony (I know almost nothing about her or the story- just going by bits and pieces I've heard here and there )
And I literally thought to myself " he looks just like the funny, charismatic, brilliant guy that some imas on imamother have to deal with their abuse at home "

amother

Catmint

Sun, May 01 2022, 6:34 pm

interesting
some responses sound emotional like projection
like to look at it analytically based on the facts based on witnesses and the like
different lenses
wonder what the outcome will be

shaqued_almond

Sun, May 01 2022, 6:56 pm

amother [ Rainbow ] wrote:

Yes. I am wondering why so few people see that, and are so quick to take sides.

Because he doesn't have a history of abusing people whereas she does. I think people would be more on her side if she actually admitted her faults but she just gaslights him. Like "I didn't punch you, I hit you." Or like " I didn't poop the bed, the dogs did it."
She also didn't actually write her own op-ed. It's just strange. I think his texts to Paul Betany we're disgusting. Depp and Heard sort of abused each other but she often instigated it.

amother

Catmint

Sun, May 01 2022, 7:05 pm

shaqued_almond wrote:

right history and context carry a lot of weight
and the tapings are pretty revealing as to the gaslighting going on

chanatron1000

Sun, May 01 2022, 7:30 pm

amother [ Catmint ] wrote:

another question: what is catmint?!

A plant similar to catnip but with much more ornamental value and less attractive to cats.

Imateacher

Sun, May 01 2022, 7:30 pm

amother [ Rainbow ] wrote:

Couldn't she have been evaluated by an independent party? Why be evaluated by someone who met with Depp before?

How is an evaluation done to determine someone of being “narcissistic or having ptsd? Can’t someone lie to make up a diagnosis?

amother

Navy

Sun, May 01 2022, 9:16 pm

Imateacher wrote:

How is an evaluation done to determine someone of being “narcissistic or having ptsd? Can’t someone lie to make up a diagnosis?

In court they said she was lying about ptsd bec she answered yes to too many questions.

Curry flatly refuted claims Heard suffers from PTSD. “It is one of the most easily faked disorders... Most of us know what it feels like to feel anxious, and a lot of people have seen war movies and movies that depict somebody having PTSD,” she said.

Applying that to Heard, Curry was categorical. “Ms. Heard did not have PTSD,” she said. “And there were also pretty significant indications that she was grossly exaggerating symptoms of PTSD when asked about them.”

Of the core 20 symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, Curry said, Heard claimed to have had 19 of them. “That’s not typical of even somebody with the most disabling form of PTSD,” she said.