Devastating Irreversible Abusive Treatments

BrisketBoss

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 1:17 am

amother [ Caramel ] wrote:

At least these are adults.

One of my friends with a child in public schools tells me her daughter now wants to be a boy. She's, what, 14?

Yup. Adults should make their own choices. Kids? If a little boy wants to wear a dress to school, that's fine. Just don't do any medical interventions--including puberty blockers!

skyeblue

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 1:17 am

skyeblue wrote:

Well they are moving toward pedophilia. I saw (but did not watch - ugh) a TED or TED-type talk on a positive spin on pedophilia; there was also an actress who tweeted something s-xual about little kids. They appear to be moving in that direction. It's disgusting.

Oh, there was another source I had seen. I just remembered. There was a magazine article titled something like, "Pedophilia: crime or illness?"

Gross. As if it can't be both. So they're clearly trying to whitewash it and mainstream it.

(Just googled it. Found a few articles with a similar title - one from the New York Times, titled, "Pedophilia: a Disorder, not a Crime.")

BrisketBoss

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 1:20 am

skyeblue wrote:

Oh, there was another source I had seen. I just remembered. There was a magazine article titled, "Pedophilia: crime or illness?"

Gross. As if it can't be both. So they're clearly trying to whitewash it and mainstream it.

(Just googled it. Found a few articles with a similar title - one from the New York Times, titled, "Pedophilia: a Disorder, not a Crime.")

Well pedophilia is not synonymous with s-xual crimes. It can lead to them. I respect the pedoph1les who successfully manage their urges and do not commit crimes. Being attracted to children was not a choice they made, and they would change it if they could.

imorethanamother

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 1:42 am

The twitter account Libsoftiktok is quite eye opening.

It broadcasts all the teachers who "come out" to their 2nd graders, or talk about being non-binary to their preschoolers. Some of them talk about their transition, and pronouns, and all sorts of confusing rhetoric to little kids.

The most shocking part of it is that some of these teachers THEN GET CAUGHT having a relationship with their students. It's like this is all grooming language, se-xualizing little kids and then we're all surprised when they act on it.

amother

Cognac

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 2:11 am

Our hospital didn't want to proceed with a treatment plan for my son, because since he was 9 years old, he was to make the decision & decide whether he wants to go thru a transplant because it's his body.
They brought a social worker, interpreter & told him all the side effects & he would need to sign and agree, if not they can't do anything. If the child decides no to treat they listen to child.

There was a big controversial debate going around in the world if you can rely on a 7 yr old brain to make medical decisions. There was a 7 yr old boy who had a lung disease, child didn't want to do life saving treatment because he knew it hurts from time before he did it. Parents respected child wishes, and child died. Parents didn't even feel bad, because they felt that this is what child wanted, so they followed.

#BestBubby

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 2:32 am

amother [ Cognac ] wrote:

Insanity. That's why Hashem gave children parents.

But neither child nor adult may refuse vaccines.
We are all too immature to have a choice.

amother

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 7:54 am

That has already started (the pet marriages with people). The insanity doesn't end.

I think the people who already had their bodies butchered are so miserable that they can't stand that some people are still fertile and healthy, so they bully them into doing the same, to make them feel better that they are not the only freak of nature. I heard a young boy call himself Frankenstein. I heard an actual story where a boy was coerced into this surgery by his so called medical professionals and a friend, and the friend committed suicide. Now he is all alone with this dysfunctional body, hates himself and his life, and is suicidal for the first time. The treatments are all experimental. Only G-d can actually make a functioning PNS or VGNA. I watched a video of a surgeon lying that the new VGNA looks and acts like a real VGNA. meanwhile, I heard accounts of men who got the VGNplasty and now have internal hair growth, too large "clit" with holes on the sides, too large and spraying urethra, little sxl sensation and Os, and other crazy health issues. Forgetting about function (which is most important), even aesthetically they are extremely disappointed and distraught with the result! Doctors are unreachable, unresponsive, provide no prior or post counseling, it is all experimental!!! What a price are youth are paying!! This is a quote from someone post surgery: It was all a lie. Now I have a "medically created wound" between my legs.

amother

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 8:31 am

The very first legally non binary person has reversed his path, lives as a man again, and attributes his stint as a woman (and later NB) to autogynephilia, a phenomenon where a man is aroused by the image of himself as a female. This is thought (by honest scientists and doctors) to explain a percentage of men acting trans.

another percentage are gay - I heard this from a doctor - but they choose to trans instead of just being in a same sx relationship

another percentage are abused and trying to cover signs of their true s-xuality to protect themselves due to trauma

another percentage are misfits, have psychological issues and swept up in the craze, hoping for acceptance

amother

Mistyrose

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 9:05 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

And a growing percentage are just regular teen age kids still trying to figure out who they are. This really struck me as I was reading up in this - how many of us can say we were really so comfortable with our bodies as we turned into women? I remember being extremely traumatized by the changes. I shudder to think what would have happened if I would have had access to tik tok.

amother

Melon

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 9:14 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

Someone dh went to yeshiva with transitioned to a girl (no idea if they did gender reassignment surgery down below but they created b**bs). I see him/her sometimes on Instagram and apparently now "she" is a lesbian and in a relationship with a girl.
What a load of cr*p. They're basically back to their biological urges, boy attracted to girl.

amother

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 9:45 am

please post your favorite LGBTQ hypocrisy/contradiction. This is for the sake of truth, and for the sake of protecting children, not just for mocking people pointlessly. These are very unfortunate people who deserve our pity.

They claim:

1) sx and gender are 2 different things. sx cannot change but gender can. So why the surgery if sx can never change??
2) Conversion therapy is illegal - we cannot try to help people with their thoughts and feelings yet we can change their bodies!
3) children cannot consent to sx, vote, or drive, yet they can consent to dangerous, life altering surgery
4) they claim the surgery and hormones lower risk of suicide, it is actually found to increase it.
5) They say a transgender woman is a woman, and a woman means someone who identifies as such. But they have not defined woman. Can a person identify as a genius? as a professor? as a dog? as a witch? as another person (I.e. their brother)?
6) they say that gender and sx are 2 different things and that the surgery is to make their sx and gender align with each other. but if they are 2 totally separate things, HOW can you possibly align them, if supposedly they have nothing to do with each other?!?!
7) weight loss surgery, kidney donation surgery, etc. require extensive counseling, yet to butcher someone's body and make them unable to urinate, have relations, org@sm, look normal, or reproduce, there is NO counseling required or provided, in fact this is illegal in many states!
8) they say gender is a spectrum but EVERY human exists because a male sperm met female egg. So actually there are only 2 genders. period.
9) People who don't approve/believe in transgender are called "transphobic." if someone doesn't believe in G-d, are they G-dphobic??? Of course not.

I can go on and on.

#BestBubby

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 10:02 am

BrisketBoss wrote:

This is how it starts. Pedophilia is not "sick" "creepy" "criminal" or a "sin".

We should not "hate" pedophiles because " they can't help it. Born a "minor attracted" ( new name)

Very dangerous you think this way.

We know it ends with pedophiles having legal right to kids - age of consent lowered to 5. If 5 y.o. can choose his s@x, 5 y.o. can consent to s@x

and parents losing custody if they try to stop it. People fired or expelled if they condemn pedophilia.

ora_43

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 10:14 am

It's funny how psychology keeps getting things wildly wrong, and yet each new generation is like "OK but THIS TIME this new diagnosis we just invented 3 seconds ago and have now diagnosed like 10% of the population with is totally legit. THIS TIME our extreme, untested medical interventions are the only cure."

Like, OK, yes, cutting out pieces of people's brains was wrong, and we zapped way too many people with unsafe doses of electricity. But chopping up genitalia, that's science.

And true, we've wildly overdiagnosed everything from hysteria to recovered memories to codependence, and we know now that an untold number of diagnoses were wrong because we based our definitions on men's minds and ignored women's, and we know now that the expression of mental illness is "contagious" in ways we don't fully understand... But 5% of youth identifying as trans or nonbinary is a natural thing that future generations won't be shaking their heads at in the slightest.

Psychology, I like you, I respect you, when it comes to treatments that have withstood the test of time I'm a believer. But slow the heck down.

flowerpower

Wed, Jul 06 2022, 10:16 am

amother [ Lightgreen ] wrote:

Dad, can I smoke? - “no, you’re only 9”
Dad can I drive your car - “no, you’re only 9”
Dad can I have a sx change? “Sure, you know best”

Can we change it?

Dad, my teacher discussed gender bs today and I decided I want to be a girl- That is nonsense my son. Go back to being innocent and carefree since you are only 9 years old and still need help taking a shower.

But in this generation I am the parent and you are the child. Either you let me have what I want (because that is what school feeds me all day) or I’ll let my teacher know you don’t let- As a parent I know we aren’t really allowed to discipline you or say no but I really want what is best for you. Forget what the teacher fed you and go back to your iphone, laptop, tv, or game station...

Next day.... school guidance counselor calls parents in for an important meeting. Threatens to report parents to cps if they don’t comply